Education Interim Committee
Members Present:
Sen. David H. Steele, Chair
Rep. Lloyd Frandsen, Chair
Sen. Lyle W. Hillyard
Sen. Joseph L. Hull
Sen. Howard C. Nielson
Rep. Sheryl L. Allen
Rep. Ron Bigelow
Rep. Duane Bourdeaux
Rep. Judy Ann Buffmire
Rep. David L. Hogue
Rep. Tammy J. Rowan
Rep. Richard M. Siddoway
Rep. A. Lamont Tyler
Rep. Bill Wright
Members Absent:
Sen. Scott N. Howell
Sen. Howard A. Stephenson
Rep. Susan J. Koehn
Rep. Patricia B. Larson
Rep. Evan L. Olsen
Members Excused:
Rep. Keele Johnson
Staff Present:
Mr. J. Wayne Lewis,
Research Analyst
Mr. James L. Wilson,
Associate General Counsel
Ms. Glenda S. Whitney,
Secretary
Note: A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.
1. Call to Order - Chair Steele called the meeting to order at 3:18 p.m.
a. Approval of Minutes -
MOTION: Rep. Hogue moved to approve the minutes of the November 19, 1997 meeting. The motion passed unanimously with Rep. Allen absent for the vote.
b. Committee Business - Chair Steele went directly to the second item on the agenda.
2. Western Interstate Compact for Higher Education (WICHE) Presentation
Sen. Lyle Hillyard, Chairman of the Western Interstate Compact for Higher Education (WICHE) explained the purpose and objectives of the compact. He introduced Mr. Richard Jonsen, Executive Director of WICHE.
Mr. Jonsen distributed a handout, "UTAH and WICHE" for committee review and discussed the 40-year-old WICHE student exchange program. He said the initial graduate student exchange program has been the keystone of the compact, WICHE has expanded its range of
educational programs and institutions available to Utah students. The program expansion effort
is helping the state to avoid creating and funding new academic programs to meet student needs.
Mr. Jonsen discussed the Professional Student Exchange Program. He said the compact
provides 15 fields of professional career education, mostly in the health professions. In the
Western Undergraduate Exchange, compact state students may attend undergraduate programs
outside their home state for 150 percent of the receiving school's resident tuition which is much
less than the standard nonresident tuition. Classes offered in the undergraduate exchange are
usually under enrolled and specialty programs.
Other Utah Commissioners of WICHE present to answer questions from the committee were Ms. Cecelia H. Foxley, Commissioner of Higher Education, and Mr. Dale O. Zabriskie, a
member of the State Board of Regents.
3. Presentation of the 1998 Interim Period Calendar - Sen. Steele indicated that Legislative Management is requiring each interim committee to limit its study efforts to no more
than five topics. The following studies are proposed for the interim period.
a. Higher Education - Master Planning and Governance
b. Innovation and Reform - Student Issues and Physical Facilities
c. Middle School - Middle School Educational Reform in Teacher Preparation, Curriculum and Class Structure
d. Professional Development - Certification, Recruitment and Academic Standards
e. School Finance - School Fees, Equity and Equalization
Sen. Steele said it is critical that the committee understand the issues within the five
topics and respond to then with legislative proposals that have developed, rejected or refined the
issue. He explained that the education community has already created several subcommittees
and task forces to review and prepare recommendations for some of the proposed 1998 interim
topics. After the chairs met with public and higher education leadership, committee members
were invited to participate with these subcommittees and task forces to develop
recommendations for the interim committee. Sen. Steele suggested that resources from NCSL,
ECS, and WICHE be utilized in the studies and all data and proposals be subjected to a stringent
"so what" test. He asked committee members to decide where they would like to participate and
make those preferences known to the chairs or staff.
MOTION: Rep. Siddoway moved to accept the five study items as discussed and listed
on the agenda as the study items for the Education Interim Committee for the 1998
Interim. The motion passed unanimously with Rep. Allen and Rep. Wright absent for the
vote.
Rep. Frandsen reviewed the interim schedule. No meetings will be held in December. The
chairs would like to hold the joint meeting with both boards in Cedar City. He felt the format of
this meeting over the years has been more productive when held there. He suggested the
committee meet with both boards in Cedar City and ask Management for two additional times
during the interim, preferably in September and November.
Rep. Buffmire referred the committee to a report in the agenda packet from the chairs of
the Utah Tomorrow Strategic Planning Committee. She said the project has been a long term
commitment for the planning committee and requested committee members to specifically
review the vision statement and performance measures for public education. She said legislators
need to give serious consideration to those recommendations calling for performance budgeting.
She felt planning recommendations could coincide with study topics review during the interim.
4. Report on School Finance Study -Ms. Laurie Chivers, Deputy Superintendent of Public Instruction, distributed a handout entitled, "School Finance Study." She explained that the
objective of the study team is to determine whether the current method of funding public
education is equitable, and to propose changes, if needed, which would bring greater assurance of
an equitable and quality education for all students in Utah. The study group will review the
adequacy of formula funding and inequities in necessarily existent small schools, debt
consolidation, tort liability, board and voted leeway and capital facilities. Superintendent of
Public Instruction, Scott Bean, said the study team will review Minimum School Program
funding formulas to determine whether changes are needed. Sen. Hillyard suggested that
programs needing adjustment be reviewed to determine if funding can be redirected to other
programs.
5. Higher Education Master Planning - Mr. Charlie Johnson, Chairman of the State Board of Regents, discussed the board's master planning priorities. The format includes the board
knowing: "1)Where are we today; 2)What we want to be in the future; and 3) How we get there
from here." A survey to indicate the importance of planning issues identified by the State Board
of Regents, included in the agenda packet, will be used by four master planning task forces. He
said the committee could expect the board to assume full accountability for this project. It will
review funding mechanisms, performance standards, and the use of technology in the delivery of
public higher education.
Several committee members indicated they wanted to be involved in the master planning
effort and the school finance study and asked to be informed of meeting dates so they could
attend on a regular basis. Staff will receive the minutes from these committees and make them
available to the committee. There will be an effort to put minutes of these meetings on a web
page.
6. Joint Liaison Subcommittee Report - Mr. Steve Laing, Assistant Superintendent of Public Instruction, and Mr. Danny Talbot, Superintendent of Wasatch School District, reported
on the recommendations of the Joint Liaison Subcommittee for Professional Development. Mr.
Laing said the Joint Liaison Committee directed the subcommittee on to establish specific
recommendations on three key issues involving teacher preparation and teacher staff
development: a) standards for middle level educators; b) development of a middle school
endorsement; and c) the ability of the state to include a requirement for all middle school
teachers to earn an endorsement. He said the college of education at Utah State University has
prepared a middle level endorsement for its graduates.
Sen. Hull expressed concern with the efforts which have been made to enhance middle
school teacher training. He felt, in addition to current recommendations, policies and procedures
should be considered to strengthen school management and discipline.
7. Implementation of "Schools for the 21st Century" Legislation - Mr. Steve Laing distributed a handout, "Utah State Office of Education, HB 145: Schools for the 21st Century"
for committee review. He said the new law requires seven tasks that must be completed by
candidates for the 21st Century Schools project. Rep. Buffmire asked for differences between Schools for the 21st Century and Centennial schools. Mr. Laing said three major goals must be identified and implemented and schools must show consistent progress toward these goals.
These schools must have the ability to access their current status and where they want to be.
Questions regarding the implementation of the charter schools' component were discussed.
Mr. Gary Carlson, Office of the Governor, said that the Governor plans to establish a task
force for middle level education. The task force will consist of members of the education and
business communities, legislators, and parents.
8. Adjournment
Chair Steele adjourned the meeting at 4:25 p.m.
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