MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE BUSINESS AND LABOR STANDING COMMITTEE
Monday, February 26, 2018 • 4:00 p.m. • 445 State Capitol


Members Present:
Rep. James A. Dunnigan, Chair
Rep. Susan Duckworth
Rep. Gage Froerer
Rep. Timothy D. Hawkes
Rep. John Knotwell
Rep. Michael K. McKell
Rep. Jeremy A. Peterson
Rep. Val K. Potter
Rep. Travis M. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Curt Webb
Rep. Mark A. Wheatley
Rep. Brad R. Wilson

Members Absent:
Rep. Marc K. Roberts, Vice Chair
Rep. Mike Schultz

Staff Present:
Mr. Adam J. Sweet, Policy Analyst
Ms. Linda Service, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Dunnigan called the meeting to order at 4:11 p.m.
Rep. Webb assumed the chair.
1. H.B. 409 Utah Life and Health Insurance Guaranty Association Amendments (Dunnigan, J.)
Rep. Dunnigan presented the bill.
Mr. Ted Lewis, American Council of Life Insurers, spoke against the bill.
Ms. Karen Melchert, American Council of Life Insurers, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Steve Foxley, Regents Blue Cross Blue Shield, spoke for the bill.
Mr. Garrett Sill, Security National Life, spoke against the bill.
Rep. Froerer assumed the chair.
Ms. Eliana White, Select Health, spoke for the bill.
Mr. Shane Skean, independent health insurance broker, spoke for the bill.
Mr. Todd Kiser, Commissioner, Insurance Department, spoke to the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Peterson moved to pass H.B. 409 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-5.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-5
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Wilson
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Webb
Chair Dunnigan resumed the chair.
MOTION: Rep. Knotwell moved to approve the minutes of the February 20th and February 22nd, 2018, meetings. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-5.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-5
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Wilson
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Webb
2. H.B. 457 Consumer Ticket Protection Amendments (Wilson, B.)
Rep. Wilson presented the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Knotwell moved to pass H.B. 457 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-5.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-5
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Wilson
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Webb
3. H.B. 456 Alcohol Amendments (Wilson, B.)
Rep. Wilson presented the bill.
Mr. Val Hardcastle, Director of Operations, Promontory Club, spoke for the bill.
Ms. Catherine Lake, Promontory Club, spoke for the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Hawkes moved to pass H.B. 456 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-3.
Yeas - 11Nays-0Abs-3
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Wilson
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
4. H.B. 364 Employment Law Amendments (Hawkes, T.)
Rep. Hawkes presented the bill.
Mr. Michael Parker, Salt Lake Chamber, spoke for the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Duckworth moved to pass H.B. 364 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-4.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-4
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. B. Wilson
MOTION: Rep. Hawkes moved to place H.B. 364 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-4.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-4
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. B. Wilson
5. 1st Sub. S.B. 100 Consumer Protection Amendments (Bramble, C.)
Sen. Curtis S. Bramble presented the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Froerer moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 100 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-5.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-5
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. B. Wilson
MOTION: Rep. Froerer moved to place 1st Substitute S.B. 100 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-5.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-5
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. B. Wilson
6. 3rd Sub. S.B. 141 Electric Energy Amendments (Bramble, C.)
Sen. Bramble presented the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Webb moved to pass 3rd Substitute S.B. 141 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-4.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-4
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. B. Wilson
MOTION: Rep. Webb moved to place 3rd Substitute S.B. 141 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-4.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-4
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. B. Wilson
7. S.B. 129 Private Investigator License Revisions (Escamilla (Robles), L.)
Sen. Escamilla presented the bill with the assistance of Mr. Kevin Wyatt, President, Private Investigators Association of Utah.
Rep. Webb assumed the chair.
Chair Dunnigan resumed the chair.
Mr. John Tinsley, Utah Professional Association of Legal Services, spoke against the bill.
Ms. Michelle Palmer, Vice President, Private Investigators Association of Utah, spoke for the bill.
Ms. Ronda Godard, Utah Professional Association of Legal Services, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Grant Roll, private investigator, spoke for the bill.
Ms. Sheree Kerr, private investigator, spoke against the bill.
Mr. John Michael Zimmerle, Private Investigators Association of Utah, spoke for the bill.
Mr. Richard Richins, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Connor Boyack, Libertas Institute, spoke for the bill.
Rep. Wheatley moved to go to the next item on the agenda.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Rep. McKell moved to pass S.B. 129 out favorably. The Substitute motion passed with a vote of 7-3-4.
Yeas - 7Nays-3Abs-4
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. B. Wilson
Rep. Wheatley withdrew his motion.
8. H.B. 283 Workplace Protection Amendments (Edwards, R.)
Rep. Rebecca P. Edwards presented the bill assisted by Ms. Lauren Scholnick, Strindberg and Scholnick, and distributed handouts.
Mr. Jaceson Maughan, Commissioner, Utah Labor Commission, spoke to the bill.
Ms. Delane England, small business owner, spoke against the bill.
Mr. David Scott, marriage and family therapist, spoke for the bill.
Ms. Maryann Christensen, Executive Director, Utah Eagle Forum and small business owner, spoke against the bill.
Ms. Ashley Anderson, Love Dance More, spoke for the bill.
Ms. Jan Zogmaister, small business owner, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Connor Boyack, Libertas Institute, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Bob Wilde, attorney, spoke for the bill.
Mr. Michael Parker, Salt Lake Chamber, spoke for the bill.
Ms. Karen Christofferson, citizen, spoke for the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Wheatley moved to replace H.B. 283 with 1st Substitute H.B. 283. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-5.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-5
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. B. Wilson
MOTION: Rep. Wheatley moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 283 out favorably. The motion failed with a vote of 3-7-4.
Yeas - 3Nays-7Abs-4
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. B. Wilson
9. H.B. 138 Good Landlord Program Amendments (Eliason, S.)
Rep. Eliason presented the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Froerer moved to amend H.B. 138 with Amendment #1. The motion passed with a vote of 7-2-5.
Amendment 1
H.B. 138
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                (d) "Exempt business" means the rental of a residential unit { [ } within a single structure
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        that contains { ] } { that:
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                  (i) contains within a single structure:
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                [(i)] (A) } no more than four residential units { ; and } .
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                { [(ii)] (B) one unit occupied by the owner[.]; or
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                  (ii) is subject to an association under Title 57, Chapter 8, Condominium Ownership
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        Act, or Title 57, Chapter 8a, Community Association Act. }

Yeas - 7Nays-2Abs-5
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. B. Wilson
MOTION: Rep. Peterson moved to adjourn. The motion failed with a vote of 2-7-5.
Yeas - 2Nays-7Abs-5
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. B. Wilson
MOTION: Rep. Froerer moved to pass H.B. 138 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 8-1-5.
Yeas - 8Nays-1Abs-5
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. B. Wilson
MOTION: Rep. Peterson moved to adjourn. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-5.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-5
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. G. Froerer
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. J. Peterson
Rep. V. Potter
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. J. Knotwell
Rep. M. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Webb
Rep. B. Wilson
Chair Dunnigan adjourned the meeting at 7:20 p.m.