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Subject: Father/Detective request for you to say NO to marijuana
Date: Wed Feb 17 20:47:15 MST 2016
I am writing to inform you that I am against any form of the legalization of marijuana on any level. I am against both Madsen’s bill as well as Vicker’s bill. You need to oppose the pro-stoner bills. I am a Detective with the Moab City Police Department, I am also a father. I can tell you that based off of both law enforcement and having a family, you need to oppose anything pro marijuana.
If you were able to take time and go to Colorado, meet with the law enforcement people there, you would see the mess that was created from legalization of marijuana and medical marijuana. They played the same song that is being played in Utah, working on the emotions of the community by exploiting sick children hoping for an outcome that basically just lets people get high legally.
When Colorado first started medical marijuana, 97% of the people who went and obtained medical marijuana cards were between the ages of 21 and 30. These people claimed some sort of chronic pain. The other 3 percent were people who were older and had actual medical issues, issues where marinol (synthetic marijuana basically) is being used to treat. The original 97% were claiming issues for the sole purpose of getting high. At one of our DRE (Drug Recognition Expert) conference, there was a lady from Colorado who spoke about this. She indicated that either Colorado had a major health epidemic with the population who are in their prime or else they are making a mockery of the system.
Feel free to email Chris Haslor, he can inform you on how the bill was written in Colorado and how it was written basically to keep law enforcement out. His email is firstname.lastname@example.org.
As a law enforcement officer, close to Colorado, I can tell you that you do not want to have what Colorado has here in Utah. We have had an impact in our community from it, we have had an increase in crime, an increase in impaired driving, and an increase in youth using marijuana.
The types of people who are utilizing the legalization of marijuana in Colorado are the people that resemble Shaggy on Scooby Doo. There have been so many encounters with people who have their marijuana medical card and their ailments are bogus; one was bit by a mosquito when he was little, several have the stereo-typical ailment of a pain, as with the trend of those who doctor shop for pain meds.
Basically, the stoners want the legalization of marijuana. The reality of it is, the communities don’t. Look at Colorado and what a majority of the cities have done in regards to dispensaries, they don’t want them in the community.
Utah already took a step in the wrong direction last year with the lessening of drug offenses. Please don’t take a step in the wrong direction with marijuana. Just say NO. You as representatives would be making a huge mistake for the people you serve if you were to support any type of marijuana legalization. Support the majority of the State and say no. It is a much bigger evil than you know and we don’t want that here in this great state. There are already enough fatalities and issues that arise from alcohol why add to it with legalizing any form of marijuana. We would become a stoner state and a mockery of the Nation. Would you want your kids riding on a bus where the driver has been smoking marijuana?
These bills are ones where you really really really need to consult with law enforcement, not only from our state, but those where marijuana has become legal.
Please do your part and oppose any type of marijuana legalization, you owe it to the State, the community, to the children and to my children. As a detective, I can tell you first hand, that an unwanted mess would be brought upon the state if legalization even medicinal use was to happen.
I am also Sergeant at Arms for Utah Narcotic Officers’ Association, an association that opposes the legalization of marijuana in any form.
JUST SAY NO
UNOA Position Statement : Medical Marijuana
Facts about Marijuana
Marijuana is a schedule I controlled substance. An addictive substance that can cause withdrawal when use is stopped, marijuana addiction treatment admissions since 2002 have been higher that any other illegal drug. Among the 60 to 100 separate chemical components of marijuana called “cannabinoids”, only one, Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is psychoactive. Higher THC content in marijuana produces greater and longer-lasting effects. In the last 20 years and due to market demand, constant genetic engineering has increased THC potency in marijuana plants, and extraction-concentration methods are becoming extremely popular and widespread. Marijuana is the second-leading cause of impaired driving arrests. One in six adolescents to try marijuana will become addicted.
So called “medical marijuana” in other states has become a farce and a sham. The average user of smoked medical marijuana has no chronic illness and is a white male in his mid-30s with a history of alcohol and drug abuse. States with medical marijuana laws have a dramatically higher incident rate in the general population of both “past-month adult users” and “new youth (12-17) users”. 10 of the 13 western-most states, including Alaska and Hawaii, have authorized some form of legal use of the intact marijuana plant. Some states with medical marijuana laws have now “graduated” to full scale legal recreational use, including Colorado, Washington, Oregon and Alaska. The attendant social problems created in those states is only beginning to be realized.
UNOA Position Statement
There is no scientific evidence that THC is necessary to boost or synergize the medicinal effect of cannabidiol (CBD) or other medicinal cannabinoids. Based upon the proximity of other medical and/recreational states, the black and grey market potential in Utah is exacerbated by the fact that since October 1, 2015, possession of up to 99 pounds of marijuana in Utah is a Class B misdemeanor. That includes highly-concentrated marijuana extracts (BHO, “dap” “shatter” “glass”) which can be up to 90% pure THC. Many national and local organizations, including the National Association of Drug Court Professionals, and the Utah Medical Association, are opposed to any use of intact marijuana as “medicine”.
The Utah Narcotic Officers Association opposes any use, medical or otherwise, of raw marijuana or any extracts containing THC. UNOA acknowledges the potential future medical benefits of other cannabinoids, and encourages continued research, studies and clinical trials of those components under strict oversight by federal and state authorities.
Below was an email I received from one my fellow Utah Narcotic Officers’ Association members.
I didn't intend to write another long email about this today, but I am extremely concerned about the nature of the discussion in Utah.
There is a LOT of misinformation being fed to the public right now, primarily because Senator Madsen is the primary source of public information and no one is challenging his statements. This means that the public is pretty much hearing his arguments over and over, which includes his claims that the church "won't meet with him", "won't explain their objections", are using heavy-handed politics to hurt sick people, etc. It is preposterous that he is getting away with this unchallenged.
This is what happens in every state. The pro-marijuana people are the only ones who are heard. People on the other side are either afraid to say anything or are insufficiently informed about all of the issues involved. In addition, the media often does not cover the issue adequately.
This means that people, including legislators, are deceived in several ways - false information, false stats, unsupported arguments (which could be easily refuted), and the PERCEPTION that the public is overwhelming in favor of the bill being proposed.
The issue of polling is extremely complicated, and most people do not realize what is happening to them. The short version is this: having studied public polling in numerous states, I know that polls do not always accurately reflect real life. Polls are often conducted haphazardly (because a sophisticated poll is very expensive). Something called "push polling" also happens routinely. This occurs when the pollster wants to get a certain answer. This is especially true when polls are conducted, or influenced by pro-pot lobbying organizations.
Either way, legislators and voters are often led to believe that a large percentage of the population is in favor of legalization, and this especially impacts legislators who are extremely sensitive to polls because they think that it reflects what their constituents want (whether it is a good idea or not).
Here is a quick example of what happens in many cases.
QUESTION: "Are you in favor a highly regulated system in which seriously ill people, with the advice of medical professionals, can obtain medical marijuana to relieve their suffering?"
Approximately 60-70% of citizens will say yes to this question because the question combines words like regulation, system, seriously ill, medical advice, relief, and suffering. Most people are compassionate, and they want to be seen as compassionate, so this question appears to describe something they can support.
If this kind if question is asked of Utah citizens, they will overwhelmingly support the idea and feel good about it.
But, think what would happen if the poll included questions like these?
QUESTION: "Are you in favor of having pot dispensaries in your neighborhood?" The yes vote will drop by at least 50%.
QUESTION: "In you knew that youth marijuana use rates would increase because of marijuana legalization, would you be in favor of that?"
QUESTION: "If you knew that a crude street drug would be sold in your community by people without any medical training (referred to as "budtenders"), would you support this legislation?"
There are many additional questions that, if asked, would paint a very different picture of support. The truth is, the public has already been brainwashed into thinking that crude pot = medicine.
Very few people know anything about the following:
CBD oil (what it is, what it does, what medical applications are being studied, potential harms, lack of FDA approval, etc)
Pure CDB oil is not psychoactive. It contains no THC (the stuff that makes you high)
There are FDA-approved clinical trials that are currently providing pharmaceutical-grade CBDs to pediatric victims of epilepsy in order to determine efficacy, potential harms, benefits, dosages, etc (all under strict medical supervision).
Crude marijuana is NOT medicine. It contains over 400 chemicals.
Medicine is NEVER smoked.
Doctors cannot "prescribe" marijuana. There is no such thing as a marijuana prescription. Doctors can only recommend marijuana.
Marijuana will NOT be sold in pharmacies.
Once a doctor "recommends" marijuana, the doctor has absolutely no control over how it is used, and typically, the use is not monitored by the recommending doctor.
A doctor's "recommendation" does not control any of the following:
Potency of the drug (3% THC vs 95% THC)
Dosage (how much)
Method of ingestion (smoking, vaping, eating)
Frequency of use (every hour, four times a day, all day)
Duration of use (no expiration date)
Purity of the drugs purchased
In most cases, all of the above is controlled by the user (and the seller)
Of course, not all of these things apply directly to Madsen's bill, since it does attempt to control certain aspects of this problem. But very few people are talking about the specifics of Madsen's bill and how these might lead to the many unintended consequences that concern many people. For example:
The bill does not appropriate any money to set up a massive marijuana manufacturing/dispensing/monitoring program. "Money Appropriated in this Bill: None"
The costs associated with rule-making, regulations, and enforcement will be staggering, let alone the huge bureaucracies that will be required to establish, monitor, and enforce the rules.
At a minimum, considerable resources will be expended by the Utah Department of Health, the Utah Department of Agriculture and Food, the Department of Public Safety, the Utah Bureau of Criminal Identification, and the Department of Technology Services.
IMPORTANT QUESTION: What do any of these agencies know about growing, selling, monitoring, enforcing rules relating to a Schedule I controlled substance by private individuals who will be committed significant violations of federal law on a daily basis?
Other resources will be necessary to monitor and enforce the law (registration, licensing, record keeping, electronic verification, security, and inventory control).
Significant resources will be necessary at the county and city government level to deal with issues such as zoning, advertising, nuisances, etc.
Under the bill, cities and counties will be PROHIBITED from passing certain ordinances regarding production facilities/dispensaries. In other words, local governments will be denied the right to control what happens in their jurisdiction, and any attempts to do so will result in litigation for cities and counties.
Litigation involving marijuana is something rarely considered by states enacting legalization programs. There will be a lot of it.
A large number of statutes will be amended, published, interpreted, argued about, and litigated.
Utah will now grow and sell marijuana by establishing "marijuana cultivation" facilities, "marijuana processing" facilities, marijuana dispensaries, testing labs, etc. All of this will violate numerous federal laws relating to drug manufacturing, distribution, conspiracy, RICO, money laundering, bank regulations and more.
Other intended or unintended consequences:
Significantly reduced perception of harm by young people
Increased use of marijuana (this is not debatable at this point. The top 21 states for marijuana use among 12-17 years old are all states that have legalized for medical or recreation purposes).
Litigation (this would take pages to describe)
Impact on law enforcement (search and seizure, drug dog programs, impact on public perception of the rule of law that some laws can be ignored, enforcement issues such as drugged driving)
Workplace consequences (drug-free workplace policies, hiring/firing, litigation, workplace safety, civil liabilities and many more)
Potential criminal/civil liabilities of state and local governments.
Medical malpractice claims for recommending a non-FDA approved Schedule I drug. This bill creates ABSOLUTE immunity from criminal AND civil liability (manufacturing, distribution, medical malpractice and many more). This is a huge problem.
The list of maladies covered by this bill is very broad. It goes beyond what many other states are doing. One of many examples: after considerable public hearings, the State of Colorado rejected PTSD as a qualifying condition. In addition, most of the widespread fraud and abuse occurring in other medical marijuana states is based upon a "chronic pain" category. It is the catch-all provision in many states.
I’m sorry that I can’t continue this right now. An analysis of every section of this bill, and the consequences, would take many, many more hours. And providing all of the proof to justify these concerns would take a huge amount of additional time. There is no adequate way for a person in my situation to provide all of the information that is available from other states that would reveal the reasons for these concerns because many, many other issues would have to be discussed, such as impacts in child custody matters --- it just goes on and on.
One last thing. If I heard correctly, Senator Madsen continues to argue that his bill will not allow marijuana to be smoked. If what he says is true, then somebody ought to point out that vaping is rapidly becoming the preferred way to ingest marijuana. Vaping is just another way to smoke pot.
Realizing that the thoughts expressed above are insufficient to address all of the things that need to be considered, I will continue to help anyone who is sincerely interested in getting additional information.