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MINUTES OF THE JOINT CAPITAL FACILITIES & ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE
Friday, February 6, 1998 at 2:00 p.m.
ROOM 405, STATE CAPITOL BUILDING


Members Present:    Sen. David L. Buhler, Committee Co-Chair
        Rep. Gerry A. Adair, Committee Co-Chair
        Sen. Mike Dmitrich
        Rep. Ralph Becker
        Rep. DeMar (Bud) Bowman
        Rep. Brent H. Goodfellow
        Rep. Joseph G. Murray
        Rep. Loraine T. Pace
        Rep. Raymond W. Short
        Rep. Richard L. Walsh

Member Absent: Sen. Leonard Blackham
Staff Present:    John Massey, Fiscal Analyst
        Susy Carter, Committee Secretary
List of others present is on file.

Co-Chairman Adair called the meeting to order at 2:10 p.m.

Workforce Services, Tab 3, page 95, with one project recommended by the analyst as a lease revenue bond, was reviewed by Robert Gross, Executive Director, DWS. He was requested to explain the savings that are expected with the consolidation of these services. He responded that 106 facilities have been consolidated into 54 facilities that provide employment training and financial assistance with the goal in mind of reducing to 48 facilities. Current lease arrangements and finding suitable quarters are being arranged to meet this goal. Discussion among the members followed. Gary Adams, Facility Planner, DWS, described the facilities planned in Cedar City and Clearfield. Intent language regarding the Cedar City facility was distributed to the members.

Lease Revenue Bonding, a discussion in House Caucus Thursday, was outlined on page 97 by the analyst, reflecting various financing options. He discussed the expenses and positive aspects of each plan and noted that with lease revenue bonding the costs are less expensive than leasing and the state would own the building at the end of 20 years. He mentioned that some other lease revenue bonding issues before the members show more dramatic savings than this. Past policies indicate that leased space should be done most economically, and that is the reason that lease revenue bonding is being proposed in this case. It was also noted by Shauna Hatfield, analyst, Governor's Office of Planning and Budget, that there was enough funding in the DWS budget to make a 20-year lease revenue bond payment, but not enough to make a 6-year general obligation bond payment.

Department of Natural Resources, Division of Parks and Recreation, requested funding for restrooms around the state. Mr. Massey explained the analyst's concern over the costs and explained the analyst's recommendation on page 50 of $1,012,000. Courtland Nelson, Director, State Parks, and Chuck Collins, Development and Planning, State Parks, explained the need for facilities for the public at state parks and the durability of the proposed prefabricated masonry restrooms.

Mr. Massey explained the request for Dead Horse Point, which is not presented in Budget Analysis FY 1999. There were ADA resolutions needed and funded last year by the legislature at Dead Horse Point of $1.35 million, which was more funding than was needed. The request this year is to expand the scope of the project to repair and rehabilitate the building as the ADA requirements are met within the funding provided, and intent language is needed to do so. Mr. Byfield noted that $125,000 would be returned to the project reserve account.

     MOTION: Rep. Goodfellow moved to direct the analyst to prepare intent language on the Dead Horse Point project to approve rehabilitation with the ADA remodeling within existing funding.

    The motion passed unanimously.

Tab 7, page 3, the budget for Administrative Services has been approved. The members were directed that votes would be taken on the intent language for Administrative Services on pages 12, 24, 35, 43, 65, and 72-3. Rep. Short requested that they be approved one at a time.

     MOTION: Rep. Goodfellow moved to the intent language on page 12 regarding the Underground Fuel Tank Mitigation funds.

    The motion passed unanimously with Rep. Bowman absent for the vote.

     MOTION: Rep. Walsh moved to accept the intent language on page 24 for the Division of Archives, with the word "changes" deleted and the word "charges" inserted.

    The motion passed unanimously.

     MOTION: Rep. Goodfellow moved to approve the intent language on page 35 for non- lapsing funds for Electronic Commerce in the Division of Purchasing.

    The motion passed with Rep. Short voting against.

     MOTION: Sen. Dmitrich moved to approve the intent language on page 43 for non-

lapsing funds for the Division of Finance.

    The motion passed with Rep. Short voting against.

     MOTION: Rep. Bowman moved to approve the intent language on page 65 for the Year 2000 non-lapsing funds, changing "chief financial officer" to "chief information officer".

    The motion passed with Rep. Short voting against.

     MOTION: Rep. Pace moved to approve the extensive intent language on pages 72 and 73 for the Office of Debt Collection.

    The motion passed with Rep. Short voting against. Rep. Short explained his negative votes.

Rep. Short brought to the attention of the members the ruling on the vote to approve the intent language found after Tab 2, page 7, regarding the qualification and prioritization of projects in Higher Education in the minutes of Wednesday, February 4, 1998. He noted that when there is a tie in one house and more than 50% of the other house votes for, the ruling should be passed.

     MOTION: Rep. Goodfellow moved to reconsider the action of the committee with regard to the Q & P requirements for Higher Education for the purpose of defeating the intent language.

    The motion passed unanimously.

Rep. Goodfellow explained that the Higher Education institutions have already established Q&P formulas that they work with at present. He resisted the proposed intent language. Mr. Massey reported that Dr. Hunsaker had discussed the intent language with the analyst and would be able to work with the Q&P on the Regent level without it.

     MOTION: Rep. Goodfellow moved to discard the intent language, Tab 2, page 7.

    The motion passed with Rep. Murray voting against. Rep. Goodfellow declared a conflict of interest.

The National Guard representatives, Colonel Larry Lunt, Deputy Adjutant General, and Lt. Colonel Pete Wilson, State Facility Officer, discussed the proposed multi-unit "super" armory community facility in American Fork to replace two existing aging ones. Their request is for an

additional $500,000 to add to the $1.1 million to meet the state's requirement to pay 25% of costs of armories. They also need the permission of the legislature to purchase a site with proceeds from the sales of the older facilities. They will need three years to complete the project.

Department of Natural Resources, Wildlife Resources, Director Kathleen Clark, Doug Lukes, and Dave Racker presented their request for an office building within five years in Cedar City. Mr. Byfield explained their use of the federally owned UDOT building in the five year interim.

Public Education: Carl Holms, Superintendent of Sevier Valley ATC, and Kim Blackburn, Assistant Superintendent of Finance and Physical Facilities, Sevier Valley ATC, gave the proposal for the Sevier Valley ATC shop expansion using displays. The purchase of a piece of diesel shop equipment, the dynamometer, was also discussed.

Richard Maughn, Superintendent, Bridgerland ATC, discussed the necessity of the south wing renovation of the Bridgerland ATC in Logan with the use of a handout (on file) showing their crowded conditions.

     MOTION: Rep. Bowman moved to approve the intent language prepared for the Workforce Services building in Cedar City.

    The motion passed unanimously.

A pink sheet replacement for Youth Corrections, Tab 3, page 37, was distributed by the analyst to the members with the summary of youth beds. Youth Corrections requests are for two 32-bed facilities in Logan and Vernal. Doug West, Deputy Director for Department of Youth Services, and Gary Dalton presented the request with a handout (on file) for shelter and detention in these two areas which are over-crowded. It was noted that the existing facilities would be useful to the Department of Human Services and would be better kept and maintained than sold. Mr. Byfield responded to inquiries of Rep. Short about the use of space and configuration; it was required that all beds be visible for detention. Rep. Adair thought that the department ought to consider 100-bed facilities.

     MOTION: Rep. Short moved to amend the minutes of Wednesday, February 4, changing the ruling to "passed" on the first motion, and to approve the minutes of both Monday, February 2, and Wednesday, February 4, 1998, as amended.

    The motion passed unanimously.

The Public Safety Highway Patrol Building for the Salt Lake Office on page 61 was presented. Colonel Richard Greenwood, Superintendent UHP and Deputy Commissioner, and Sid Groll, Director of POST, explained the overcrowded conditions at the present facility and the need for storage space. Responding to the need to cut costs, Col. Greenwood offered to cut out the public art proposed for the building and save the state $20,000. Mr. Groll discussed the evaluations being done on the training for Public Safety and Corrections officers and the number of classes that can be trained annually. He recommended combining these training programs.

Sen. Dmitrich presented a proposal for an additional nine holes at the Green River Golf Course. State Parks was reported to be in agreement. Mr. Byfield asked that he do a cost analysis and report to the members in the next meeting. Sen. Dmitrich agreed to hold the intent language until then.

Rich Byfield, Director, DCFM noted that the Division of Surplus Property relocation has been sited at Draper with the recommendation that storage for the Division of Archives also be housed there on state-owned property. Jeff Johnson, Director, Division of Archives, was in agreement with the recommendation for their storage facility. In response to the request of the committee, the relocation of the Attorney General's offices in the capitol and the Heber Wells office space use was presented with the use of sketches distributed by Mr. Byfield.

Representatives of the Daughters of Utah Pioneers, Mary Johnson, President, and Edith Mena, Curator of the Museum, used a chart to present their request for a building to house their newly restored fire engine. The building would be an addition to an existing state-owned building, the replica of the Pioneer Memorial Theater, which houses their museum. It was noted that all the museum workers are volunteers.

The Hill Aerospace Fighter Aircraft Gallery proposal (page B-27) was made by Lt. Gen. Rex and Mrs. Hadley (Ret.), currently volunteers at the Hill Aerospace Museum. They outlined the history of the museum since 1987 and noted that its scope has doubled from original projections. The fighter gallery would house 10-15 fighter aircraft on long-term loan from the Smithsonian.

The Roy Museum proposal was made by Doug Roche, Curator. The $150,000 requested is for paving the parking lot, installing an elevator to meet ADA requirements, and a patio addition.

The Memory Grove Park proposal was presented by Bart Davis, Chairman of the Memory Grove Foundation for $150,000 of state funds. Dedicated to the memory of the departed servicemen, these sites are deteriorating. Preserve and weatherproof funds have come from the families of servicemen.

Dave Miles, UDOT, presented a proposal to exchange the Orem facility for a new location and

new building. The Orem property is extremely valuable and the facility is larger than is needed. The request is for intent language to allow UDOT to pursue this opportunity.

MOTION: Rep. Goodfellow moved to approve the intent language for UDOT relocation in Orem, with the amendment of "that" to "than" and adding "without additional funding." at the end.

The motion passed unanimously.

Co-Chair Adair adjourned the meeting at 5:20 p.m.

The minutes were reported by Susy Carter.

Sen. David L. Buhler Rep. Gerry A. Adair
Committee Co-Chair Committee Co-Chair