CORRECTED MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE
ROOM W125, WEST OFFICE BUILDING, STATE CAPITOL COMPLEX
Revised February 22, 2007
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Paul Ray, Chair
Rep. Ronda R. Menlove, Vice Chair
Rep. D. Gregg Buxton
Rep. John Dougall
Rep. David Litvack
Rep. Phil Riesen
Rep. Stephen E. Sandstrom
MEMBERS ABSENT: Rep. Wayne A. Harper
STAFF PRESENT: Mark Andrews, Policy Analyst
Sylvia Newton, House Secretary
Note: A list of visitors and copy of handouts are filed with committee minutes.
Rep. Ray called the meeting to order at 7:35 a.m.
MOTION: Rep. Buxton moved to approve the minutes of the February 19, 2007 meeting. The
motion passed unanimously with Rep. Dougall and Rep. Litvack absent for the vote.
Rep. Ray turned the chair over to Rep. Menlove.
H.J.R. 16 Joint Resolution Supporting Governor's Child and Family Cabinet Council
(Rep. P. Ray)
MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to amend the resolution as followed:
1. Page
1, Lines 15 through 17
:
15
. supports the formation of the Utah Governor's Child and Family Cabinet
Council to
16
focus on the issues of
child abuse, substance abuse, neglect, and
domestic violence
and
{
its
}
their
threat to Utah's children and
17
families.
2. Page
2, Lines 49 through 51
:
49
supports the formation, by Governor Huntsman, of a council known as the Utah
Governor's
50
Child and Family Cabinet Council to focus on
{
the issues of domestic violence and
its threat to
}
a coordinated approach to preventing abuse, neglect, and domestic
violence threatening
51
Utah's children and families.
The motion to amend the resolution passed unanimously with Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
Rep. Ray explained H.J.R. 16 as amended to the committee.
Spoke in favor of the bill: Dwayne Baird, Department of Human Services
Ned Searle, Commission on Criminal & Juvenile Justice
MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to pass H.J.R. as amended out favorably. The motion passed
unanimously with Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
Rep. Ray resumed the chair.
S.B. 193 Amendments to Mental Health Professional Practice Act (Sen. P. Jones)
Sen. Jones explained S.B. 193 to the committee, assisted by Mark Payne, Division of Substance
Abuse and Mental Health. A handout was provided to committee members.
Spoke in favor of the bill: Patrick Fleming, Salt Lake County Substance Abuse
Dave Felt, Association of Utah Substance Abuse Professionals
MOTION: Rep. Litvack moved to pass S.B. 193 out favorably. The motion passed
unanimously with Rep. Dougall and Rep. Menlove absent for the vote.
MOTION: Rep. Buxton moved to place S.B. 193 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed
unanimously with Rep. Dougall and Rep. Menlove absent for the vote.
H.B. 250 Consumer Access to Health Care Charges (Rep. E. Hutchings)
MOTION: Rep. Buxton moved to amend the bill as follows:
1. Page
2, Lines 39 through 45
:
39
A health care facility licensed under this chapter shall, when requested by a
consumer:
40
(1) make a list of prices available for the consumer which includes the facility's
{
:
41
(a)
}
50 most frequently performed:
42
{
(i)
}
(a)
in-patient procedures; and
43
{
(ii)
}
(b)
out-patient procedures; and
44
{
(b) the 50 most commonly prescribed drugs in the facility; and
}
45
(2) provide the consumer with information regarding any discounts available for:
The motion to amend the bill passed unanimously with Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
Rep. Hutchings explained H.B. 250 as amended.
Spoke to the bill: Michelle McOmber, Utah Medical Association
Senator Peter Knudson, Utah State Senate
Spoke in favor of the bill: Brad Kuhnhausen, Utah Association of Health Underwriters
Spoke in opposition to the bill: Judi Hilman, Utah Health Policy Project
MOTION: Rep. Menlove moved to pass H.B. 250 as amended out favorably. The motion
passed with Rep. Litvack and Rep. Sandstrom voting in opposition to the motion
and Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
H.B. 444 Promotion of Health Efficiencies (Rep. B. Last)
Rep. Last explained the bill to the committee, assisted by Dan Hull, Executive Director, Utah
Association of Home Care. Rep. Last provided handouts to committee members and also
declared a conflict of interest.
Spoke in favor of the bill: Steve Love, president, Love Health Care
Michael Hales, Director, Division of Health Care Financing, Utah
Department of Health
MOTION: Rep. Menlove moved to return H.B. 444 to the Rules Committee with a
recommendation for interim study. The motion passed unanimously with Rep.
Dougall absent for the vote.
S.B. 45 Nursing Amendments (Sen. P. Knudson)
Sen. Knudson explained the bill to the committee, assisted by Laura Poe, Division of
Occupational and Professional Licensing.
MOTION: Rep. Litvack moved to pass S.B. 45 out favorably. The motion passed unanimously
with Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
MOTION: Rep. Menlove moved to place S.B. 45 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed
unanimously with Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
S.B. 160 Pharmacy Practice Act Amendments (Sen. P. Knudson)
Sen. Knudson explained S.B. 160 to the committee, assisted by Laura Poe, Division of
Occupational and Professional Licensing.
MOTION: Rep. Buxton moved to amend the bill as follows:
1. Page
4, Line 113 through Page 5, Line 124b
:
113
"Unprofessional conduct" includes:
114
(1) willfully deceiving or attempting to deceive the division, the board, or their
agents
115
as to any relevant matter regarding compliance under this chapter;
116
(2) (a)
{
except for price discounts [conditional] based upon [volume
purchases: (a)]
117
purchase volumes paying rebates to practitioners or any other health care
providers; and
}
except as provided in Subsection (2)(b):
(i) paying rebates to practitioners or receiving rebates from practitioners or any
other health care provider; or
(ii) paying or receiving compensation in the form of a commission, bonus,
rebate, kickback, or split fee arrangement with practitioners or any other health
care provider, for the purpose of obtaining referrals.
(b) Subsection (2)(a) does not apply to:
(i) giving or receiving price discounts based on purchase volume; or
(ii) passing along pharmaceutical manufacturer's rebates.
118
[(b) entering into any agreement with a medical practitioner or any other person for
the
119
payment or acceptance of compensation or its economic equivalent for recommending the
120
professional services of either party;]
121
{
(b)
}
S. [providing to or receiving from a physician, surgeon, organization,
agency, or other
122
person, either directly or indirectly, any form of compensation for the referral of a patient
to a
123
pharmacy licensed under this chapter, including compensation in the form of a
commission,
124
bonus, rebate, kickback, or split-fee arrangement;]
{
for pharmacies and pharmacists
not
124a
participating in Medicare or Medicaid, an act that would violate the Federal
Anti-kickback
124b
Statute, 42 U.S.C. sec. 1320a-7b(b). .S
}
The motion to amend the bill passed unanimously with Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
Spoke to the bill: Shelly Cordon Teuscher, Vetcentric
MOTION: Rep. Buxton moved to amend the bill as follows:
1. Page
4, Line 113 through Page 5, Line 124b
:
113
"Unprofessional conduct" includes:
114
(1) willfully deceiving or attempting to deceive the division, the board, or their
agents
115
as to any relevant matter regarding compliance under this chapter;
116
(2) (a)
{
except for price discounts [conditional] based upon [volume
purchases: (a)]
117
purchase volumes paying rebates to practitioners or any other health care
providers; and
}
except as provided in Subsection (2)(b):
(i) paying rebates to practitioners or receiving rebates from practitioners or any
other health care provider; or
(ii) paying or receiving compensation in the form of a commission, bonus,
rebate, kickback, or split fee arrangement with practitioners or any other health
care provider, for the purpose of obtaining referrals.
(b) Subsection (2)(a) does not apply to:
(i) giving or receiving price discounts based on purchase volume;
(ii) passing along pharmaceutical manufacturer's rebates; or
(iii) being compensated for providing dispensing, billing and related services to
a veterinarian.
118
[(b) entering into any agreement with a medical practitioner or any other person for
the
119
payment or acceptance of compensation or its economic equivalent for recommending the
120
professional services of either party;]
121
{
(b)
}
S. [providing to or receiving from a physician, surgeon, organization,
agency, or other
122
person, either directly or indirectly, any form of compensation for the referral of a patient
to a
123
pharmacy licensed under this chapter, including compensation in the form of a
commission,
124
bonus, rebate, kickback, or split-fee arrangement;]
{
for pharmacies and pharmacists
not
124a
participating in Medicare or Medicaid, an act that would violate the Federal
Anti-kickback
124b
Statute, 42 U.S.C. sec. 1320a-7b(b). .S
}
The motion to amend the bill passed with Rep. Menlove and Rep. Ray voting in opposition
to the motion and Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
MOTION: Rep. Buxton moved to amend the bill as follows:
1. Line 117: After "except as provided in Subsection (2)(b): (i) paying" insert "or offering"
and
After "(ii) paying" insert ", offering,"
The motion to amend the bill passed unanimously with Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
MOTION: Rep. Menlove moved to pass S.B. 160 as amended out favorably. The motion
passed unanimously with Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.
MOTION: Rep. Riesen moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed unanimously
with Rep. Dougall absent for the vote.