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Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - February 01, 2019
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Recording 1
Senate Chair Christensen called the meeting to order at 8:18 a.m.
House Chair Ray moved to approve the following motion from the sheet entitled "Social Services Subcommitteee - Motions for Subcommittee Consideration" dated 1/25/2019: #CB4.
Public Input on Topics on Today's Agenda
Mr. George Chapman, citizen, spoke about Operation Rio Grande and the needed funding that could make it a success.
Rep. Daw asked for clarification and Mr. Chapman responded.
Ms. Gina Cornia, Utahns Against Hunger, spoke in opposition to budget reduction options related to Emergency Food Network and Qualified Emergency Food Agencies Fund.
Rep. Judkins asked clarifying questions and Ms. Cornia responded.
Annual Audit of the Department of Workforce Services by the State Auditor
4-Department of Workforce Services - Single Audit Management Letter - June 30, 2018
Mr. John Dougall, State Auditor, Office of the State Auditor (OSA), introduced the auditors to the committee.
Mr. Gregg Hastings, Financial Auditor/IS Manager, OSA, presented the audit findings to the committee.
Mr. Andrew Driggs, Financial Senior Auditor, OSA, presented additional details about the audit findings.
Chair Christensen asked for more information and Mr. Driggs and Mr. Dougall responded.
Rep. Dailey-Provost asked a clarifying question and Mr. Driggs responded.
Mr. Hastings gave a conclusion of the report.
Rep. Judkins asked clarifying questions and Mr. Dougall responded.
Mr. Dougall expressed appreciation to the Department of Workforce Services (DWS) for their continued effort to improve their operations.
Mr. Jon Pierpont, Executive Director, DWS, responded to the audit and expressed appreciation for the department's relationship with OSA.
Rep. Judkins expressed appreciation for the department and the auditor team.
Rep. Ray moved to approve motion #DA1 from the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
Department of Workforce Services (DWS) - Base Budget
Ms. Maddy Oritt, Fiscal Analyst, Office of the Legislative Fiscal Analyst (LFA), explained the Base Budget to the committee and invited Mr. Nathan Harrison, Director of Administrative Support, DWS, to answer questions from the committee.
5b-DWS - Facility Costs FY19
Chair Christensen asked for clarification and Ms. Oritt responded.
5c-DWS - Fund Balances
Ms. Oritt explained the report.
5d-Issue Brief - 2019 General Session - Fees - Department of Workforce Services
Ms. Oritt presented the report.
Chair Christensen asked Mr. Harrison to provide additional information and Mr. Harrison responded.
Rep. Ward asked clarifying questions and Mr. Harrison responded.
Mr. Jonathan Hardy, Director, Division of Housing and Community Development, DWS, provided additional information.
Ms. Tracy Gruber, Director, Office of Child Care, DWS, provided additional information.
Rep. Judkins asked for information about fees and Mr. Harrison responded.
Chair Christensen asked for additional information and Mr. Harrison responded.
Ms. Oritt continued with her presentation.
5e-Issue Brief - 2019 General Session - Federal Funds - Department of Workforce Services
Ms. Oritt presented the information.
5f-DWS - Caseloads - FY2018
5g-DWS - Line Item Performance Measures - FY2018
M. Oritt explained possible motions for the committee's consideration.
Rep. Ray moved to approve all DA motions except #DA1 from the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
DWS Administration - Base Budget
Ms. Oritt presented the DWS Administration Base Budget and explained possible motions for the committee's consideration.
Rep. Judkins asked for clarification and Ms. Oritt and Mr. Harrison responded.
Rep. Robertson asked for clarification and Mr. Jon Pierpont, Executive Director, DWS, responded.
Rep. Judkins asked about programs for veterans and Mr. Pierpont responded.
Ms. Oritt explained possible motions for the committee's consideration.
Mr. Harrison supplied additional information.
Rep. Thurston moved to approve the DB motions for the Administration line item on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
DWS General Assistance - Base Budget
Ms. Oritt explained the Base Budget.
Chair Christensen commented on the challenge to General Assistance allowance recipients to subsist on the amount provided.
Chair Christensen made a comment about the audit and Mr. Harrison responded.
Rep. Ray moved to approve the DC motions for the General Assistance line item on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
DWS Housing and Community Development (HCD) - Base Budget
8c1-DWS - HCD Expenditure Details FY18
Ms. Oritt explained the Base Budget to the committee.
Rep. Dailey-Provost asked clarifying questions.
Ms. Oritt and Mr. Hardy provided the information.
Ms. Oritt explained possible reduction options and motions for the committee's consideration.
Chair Christensen commented on the proposed budget cuts and invited representatives from DWS to respond.
Mr. Hardy expressed opposition to the Housing and Community Development reduction options.
Rep. Robertson asked for clarification and Mr. Hardy responded.
Mr. Kory Holdaway, Consultant, The INN Between, was invited by Chair Christensen to speak about the proposed budget cuts that would affect The INN Between.
Rep. Ray asked about funding requests and Mr. Holdaway and Mr. Hardy responded.
Ms. Oritt continued her presentation on funding requests and possible motions.
8c1-DWS - HCD Expenditure Details FY18
8c2-Private Activity Bonds - 2-1-2019
Performance Audit of Utah's Homeless Services
10-Performance Audit of Utah's Homeless Services (audit number 2018-12)
Mr. Brian Dean, Deputy Auditor General, Office of Legislative Auditor General (OLAG), introduced the audit to the committee.
Mr. James Behunin, Audit Supervisor, OLAG, explained the audit findings to the committee and made recommendations to improve deficiencies.
Rep. Coleman asked for clarification and Mr. Behunin responded.
Chair Christensen made a comment about changing metrics to change study outcomes.
Mr. Behunin continued with his presentation.
Rep. Coleman asked for more information and Mr. Behunin responded.
Mr. Dean provided additional information.
Mr. Behunin continued with his presentation.
Chair Christensen expressed his thoughts on changing goals.
Mr. Dean and Mr. Behunin responded.
Rep. Daw asked for clarification about agencies and funding sources. Mr. Dean responded.
House Chair Ray assumed the chair.
Rep. Coleman asked for more information and Mr. Behunin and Mr. Dean responded.
Sen. Escamilla asked for additional information about funding sources and Mr. Dean and Mr. Behunin responded.
Mr. Hardy responded to the audit.
Ms. Oritt explained possible motions to the committee.
Rep. Thurston moved to approve motion #DC1 on the General Assistance line item, and the DD motions except #DD3-#DD7, #DD13, #DD23, #DD24, and #DD26 in the Housing and Community Development line item section on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
Rep. Judkins moved to approve motion #DC1 in the General Assistance line item and all DD motions except #DD3-#DD7, #DD11, #DD13-#DD15, #DD23, #DD24, and #DD26 in the Housing and Community Development line item section on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
Chair Ray gave some additional information and spoke in opposition to the substitute motion.
Rep. Dailey-Provost spoke in opposition to the substitute motion.
DWS Olene Walker Housing Loan Fund - Base Budget
11b-Report on H.B. 36 - Expenditures
Ms. Oritt presented the information to the committee.
Mr. Hardy explained the report to the committee.
Ms. Oritt continued with her presentation.
Senate Chair Christensen resumed the chair.
Sen. Cullimore spoke to the fund.
Ms. Oritt explained possible motions to the committee.
Rep. Dailey-Provost asked for more information regarding DD3-DD7 and Mr. Harrison and Ms. Oritt responded.
Rep. Robertson asked for more information and Ms. Oritt and Mr. Hardy responded.
House Chair Ray moved to approve motions #DD3-#DD7 and #DD23 in the Housing and Community Development line item section on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
DWS Permanent Community Impact/Community Development Capital - Base
12a-DWS - HCD Capital Expenditure Details FY18
Ms. Oritt explained additional motions for the committee to consider.
House Chair Ray moved to approve motion #DD24 in the Housing and Community Development line item section on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
DWS Special Services District - Base Budget
13a-DWS - HCD SSD Expenditure Details FY18
Ms. Oritt explained a motion for the committee's consideration.
House Chair Ray moved to approve the motion #DD26 in the Housing and Communtiy Development line item section on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
DWS Operation Rio Grande - Base Budget
14a-DWS - ORG Expenditure Details FY18
14c-Issue Brief - 2019 General Session - Operation Rio Grande - Funding and Performance Update
Ms. Oritt presented the information.
House Chair Ray moved to approve the motion #DG1 in the Rio Grande item section on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
DWS Nutrition Assistance - SNAP - Base Budget
15a-DWS - Nutrition Assistance Expenditure Details FY18
Ms. Oritt explained the Base Budget to the committee.
House Chair Ray moved to approve the motions #DE1 and #DE2 for the General Assistance line item on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
Rep. Robertson asked for clarifying information and Ms. Oritt responded.
DWS Office of Child Care - Base Budget
16c-DWS - OCC Expenditure Details FY18
Ms. Oritt presented the information to the committee.
Mr. Harrison responded to Chair Christensen's questions.
Rep. Robertson asked for clarification and Mr. Harrison responded.
Rep. Ward asked clarifying questions and Mr. Harrison responded.
Ms. Oritt provided additional information about the possible motions.
Mr. Harrison provided more information regarding the potential motions.
Rep. Ward asked for clarifying information regarding the potential motions and Mr. Harrison responded.
House Chair Ray moved to approve the DF motions, except #DF2, for the General Assistance line item on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
Ms. Oritt explained the DJ motions to the committee.
17a-DWS - UI Expenditure Details FY18
House Chair Ray moved to approve the DJ motions for the General Assistance line item on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/25/2019.
Rep. Seegmiller moved to adjourn.
Chair Christensen adjourned the meeting at 10:52 a.m.
Call to Order
Call to Order
Public Input on Topics on Today's Agenda
Public Input on Topics on Today's Agenda
Annual Audit of the Department of Workforce Services by the State Auditor
Annual Audit of the Department of Workforce Services by the State Auditor
Department of Workforce Services (DWS) - Base Budget
Department of Workforce Services (DWS) - Base Budget
DWS Administration - Base Budget
DWS Administration - Base Budget
DWS General Assistance - Base Budget
DWS General Assistance - Base Budget
DWS Housing and Community Development (HCD) - Base Budget
DWS Housing and Community Development (HCD) - Base Budget
Update on INN Between
Update on INN Between
Performance Audit of Utah's Homeless Services
Performance Audit of Utah's Homeless Services
DWS Olene Walker Housing Loan Fund - Base Budget
DWS Olene Walker Housing Loan Fund - Base Budget
DWS Permanent Community Impact/Community Development Capital - Base
DWS Permanent Community Impact/Community Development Capital - Base
DWS Special Services District - Base Budget
DWS Special Services District - Base Budget
DWS Operation Rio Grande - Base Budget
DWS Operation Rio Grande - Base Budget
DWS Nutrition Assistance - SNAP - Base Budget
DWS Nutrition Assistance - SNAP - Base Budget
DWS Office of Child Care - Base Budget
DWS Office of Child Care - Base Budget
DWS Unemployment Insurance - Base Budget
DWS Unemployment Insurance - Base Budget
Other Business
Other Business
Written Reports
Written Reports
AGENDA
AGENDA
MINUTES
MINUTES
NOTICE
NOTICE
4-Department of Workforce Services - Single Audit Management Letter - June 30, 2018
4-Department of Workforce Services - Single Audit Management Letter - June 30, 2018
5b-DWS - Facility Costs FY19
5b-DWS - Facility Costs FY19
5c-DWS - Fund Balances
5c-DWS - Fund Balances
5d-Issue Brief - 2019 General Session - Fees - Department of Workforce Services
5d-Issue Brief - 2019 General Session - Fees - Department of Workforce Services
5f-DWS - Caseloads - FY2018
5f-DWS - Caseloads - FY2018
5g-DWS - Line Item Performance Measures - FY2018
5g-DWS - Line Item Performance Measures - FY2018
6c-DWS - Administration Expenditure Details FY18
6c-DWS - Administration Expenditure Details FY18
7a-DWS - GA Expenditure Details FY18
7a-DWS - GA Expenditure Details FY18
8c1-DWS - HCD Expenditure Details FY18
8c1-DWS - HCD Expenditure Details FY18
8c2-Private Activity Bonds - 2-1-2019
8c2-Private Activity Bonds - 2-1-2019
5e-Issue Brief - 2019 General Session - Federal Funds - Department of Workforce Services
5e-Issue Brief - 2019 General Session - Federal Funds - Department of Workforce Services
8d1-FY20 Homeless Shelter Cities Mitigation Grant Program Recommendations from SHCC
8d1-FY20 Homeless Shelter Cities Mitigation Grant Program Recommendations from SHCC
8d2-FY20 Eligible Municipalities Home Homeless Shelter Cities Mitigation Account Recommendations from SHCC
8d2-FY20 Eligible Municipalities Home Homeless Shelter Cities Mitigation Account Recommendations from SHCC
10-Performance Audit of Utah's Homeless Services (audit number 2018-12)
10-Performance Audit of Utah's Homeless Services (audit number 2018-12)
11b-Report on H.B. 36 - Expenditures
11b-Report on H.B. 36 - Expenditures
12a-DWS - HCD Capital Expenditure Details FY18
12a-DWS - HCD Capital Expenditure Details FY18
13a-DWS - HCD SSD Expenditure Details FY18
13a-DWS - HCD SSD Expenditure Details FY18
14a-DWS - ORG Expenditure Details FY18
14a-DWS - ORG Expenditure Details FY18
14c-Issue Brief - 2019 General Session - Operation Rio Grande - Funding and Performance Update
14c-Issue Brief - 2019 General Session - Operation Rio Grande - Funding and Performance Update
15a-DWS - Nutrition Assistance Expenditure Details FY18
15a-DWS - Nutrition Assistance Expenditure Details FY18
16c-DWS - OCC Expenditure Details FY18
16c-DWS - OCC Expenditure Details FY18
17a-DWS - UI Expenditure Details FY18
17a-DWS - UI Expenditure Details FY18
19a-DWS Annual Report - Homeless to Housing
19a-DWS Annual Report - Homeless to Housing
19b-Leveraging Medicaid Dollars for Homeless Services 2-1-2019
19b-Leveraging Medicaid Dollars for Homeless Services 2-1-2019
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