| Members Present: Rep. Lee B. Perry, Chair Rep. Edward H. Redd, Vice Chair Rep. Cheryl K. Acton Rep. Rebecca P. Edwards Rep. Sandra Hollins Rep. Eric K. Hutchings Rep. Kelly B. Miles | Rep. Paul Ray Rep. Angela Romero Rep. Elizabeth Weight Rep. Mike Winder Staff Present: Mr. John Feinauer, Policy Analyst Ms. Katiemarie Harmon, Committee Secretary |
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Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the
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| Chair Perry called the meeting to order at 4:03 p.m. |
| MOTION: Rep. Acton moved to approve the minutes. The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-5. | |||
| Yeas - 6 | Nays-0 | Abs-5 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. R. Edwards Rep. L. Perry Rep. P. Ray Rep. A. Romero Rep. M. Winder | Rep. S. Hollins Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. K. Miles Rep. E. Redd Rep. E. Weight |
| 1. H.B. 59 Unmanned Aircraft Revisions (Pitcher, D.) |
| Rep. Dixon M. Pitcher presented the bill. |
| MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to replace H.B. 59 with 1st Substitute H.B. 59. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2. | |||
| Yeas - 9 | Nays-0 | Abs-2 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. R. Edwards Rep. S. Hollins Rep. K. Miles Rep. L. Perry Rep. P. Ray Rep. A. Romero Rep. E. Weight Rep. M. Winder | Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. E. Redd |
| MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 59 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2. | |||
| Yeas - 9 | Nays-0 | Abs-2 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. R. Edwards Rep. S. Hollins Rep. K. Miles Rep. L. Perry Rep. P. Ray Rep. A. Romero Rep. E. Weight Rep. M. Winder | Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. E. Redd |
| MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to place 1st Substitute H.B. 59 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2. | |||
| Yeas - 9 | Nays-0 | Abs-2 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. R. Edwards Rep. S. Hollins Rep. K. Miles Rep. L. Perry Rep. P. Ray Rep. A. Romero Rep. E. Weight Rep. M. Winder | Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. E. Redd |
| 2. H.B. 177 Trauma-informed Justice Provisions (Ivory, K.) |
| Rep. Ken Ivory presented the bill with the assistance of Senator Luz Escamilla, Mr. Gary Scheller, Director, Utah Council of Victims and Crimes, Ms. Jenny Livsey, Citizen, and Ms. Amy Coombs, Social Worker. |
| Ms. Heather Woolsey, Citizen, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Mr. Roger Stephenson, Citizen, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Kim Cordova, Director, Criminal and Juvenile Justice, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Shirrlee Draper, Cherish Families, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Terry Mitchell, Citizen, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Ronni Adams, Executive Director, Stop Abuse Campaign, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Tiffany Shapiro, Citizen, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Terryl Warner, Cache County Attorney's Office, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Erin Jemison, YWCA Utah, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| MOTION: Rep. Redd moved to replace H.B. 177 with 1st Substitute H.B. 177. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-1. | |||
| Yeas - 10 | Nays-0 | Abs-1 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. R. Edwards Rep. S. Hollins Rep. K. Miles Rep. L. Perry Rep. P. Ray Rep. E. Redd Rep. A. Romero Rep. E. Weight Rep. M. Winder | Rep. E. Hutchings |
| MOTION: Rep. Miles moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 177 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-1. | |||
| Yeas - 10 | Nays-0 | Abs-1 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. R. Edwards Rep. S. Hollins Rep. K. Miles Rep. L. Perry Rep. P. Ray Rep. E. Redd Rep. A. Romero Rep. E. Weight Rep. M. Winder | Rep. E. Hutchings |
| 3. H.B. 129 Self-defense Amendments (Maloy, A.C.) |
| Rep. Cory A. Maloy presented the bill. |
| MOTION: Rep. Redd moved to amend H.B. 129 with Amendment #1. The motion passed with a vote of 8-2-1. | |||
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Amendment 1 Page 1, Lines 11 through 16
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provides that an individual's failure to retreat is not relevant when determining15
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(4) Except as provided in Subsection (3)(a)(iii):
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(a) an individual does not have a duty to retreat from the force or threatened force
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(b) the failure of an individual to retreat under the provisions of Subsection (4)(a) is not
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| Yeas - 8 | Nays-2 | Abs-1 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. R. Edwards Rep. K. Miles Rep. L. Perry Rep. P. Ray Rep. E. Redd Rep. E. Weight Rep. M. Winder | Rep. S. Hollins Rep. A. Romero | Rep. E. Hutchings |
| Mr. Mitch Vilos, Self-Defense Attorney, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Heather Woolsey, Citizen, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Margarita Satini, Chair, Utah Pacific Islander Health Coalition, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Mr. Curt Oda, Citizen, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Elizabeth Love, Gun Violence Prevention Center of Utah, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Maryann Christensen, Utah Eagle Forum, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Kait Hinckley, Moms Demand Action, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Mr. Clark Aposhian, Chairman, Utah Shooting Sports Council, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Mr. Scott Hayashi, Episcopal Church, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Mr. Val Shupe, Executive Director, Utah Chiefs of Police, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to pass H.B. 129, as amended, out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 7-3-1. | |||
| Yeas - 7 | Nays-3 | Abs-1 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. R. Edwards Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. L. Perry Rep. P. Ray Rep. E. Redd Rep. M. Winder | Rep. S. Hollins Rep. A. Romero Rep. E. Weight | Rep. K. Miles |
| MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to adjourn. The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-0. | |||
| Yeas - 11 | Nays-0 | Abs-0 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. R. Edwards Rep. S. Hollins Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. K. Miles Rep. L. Perry Rep. P. Ray Rep. E. Redd Rep. A. Romero Rep. E. Weight Rep. M. Winder |
| Chair Perry adjourned the meeting at 5:47 p.m. |