MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE STANDING COMMITTEE
Wednesday, February 28, 2018 • 4:00 p.m. • 450 State Capitol


Members Present:
Rep. Lee B. Perry, Chair
Rep. Edward H. Redd, Vice Chair
Rep. Cheryl K. Acton
Rep. Rebecca P. Edwards
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Eric K. Hutchings
Rep. Kelly B. Miles
Rep. Paul Ray
Rep. Angela Romero
Rep. Elizabeth Weight
Rep. Mike Winder

Staff Present:
Mr. John Feinauer, Policy Analyst
Ms. Katiemarie Harmon, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Perry called the meeting to order at 4:17 p.m.
MOTION: Rep. Winder moved to approve the minutes of the February 27, 2018 meeting. The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-3.
Yeas - 8Nays-0Abs-3
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. E. Weight
1. S.B. 188 Uniform Unsworn Declarations Act (Hillyard, L.)
Sen. Lyle W. Hillyard presented the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Miles moved to pass S.B. 188 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-4.
Yeas - 7Nays-0Abs-4
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
MOTION: Rep. Winder moved to place S.B. 188 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-4.
Yeas - 7Nays-0Abs-4
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
2. 3rd Sub. S.B. 134 Materials Harmful to Minors Amendments (Weiler, T.)
Sen. Todd Weiler presented the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to pass 3rd Substitute S.B. 134 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-2
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. E. Redd
3. H.B. 439 Coordinated Penalties for Sexual Abuse (Christensen, L.)
Rep. LaVar Christensen presented the bill with the assistance of Reed Richards, Attorney, Weber County Sheriff's Office, and Mr. David Carlson, Director, Child Protection Division, Utah Attorney General's Office.
Mr. Tom Ross, President, Utah Chiefs of Police Association, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Romero moved to replace H.B. 439 with 1st Substitute H.B. 439. The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-3.
Yeas - 8Nays-0Abs-3
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. E. Redd
MOTION: Rep. Romero moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 439 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-3.
Yeas - 8Nays-0Abs-3
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. E. Redd
MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to place 1st Substitute H.B. 439 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-3.
Yeas - 8Nays-0Abs-3
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. E. Redd
4. H.B. 449 Victim Rights Amendments (Eliason, S.)
Rep. Steve Eliason presented the bill with the assistance of Mr. Ross.
Mr. William Carlson, Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Winder moved to replace H.B. 449 with 1st Substitute H.B. 449. The motion passed with a vote of 7-2-2.
Yeas - 7Nays-2Abs-2
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. E. Redd
MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 449 with Amendment #1. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Amendment 1
1st Sub. H.B. 449
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                (2) A victim or victim's family may seek review of an open investigation:
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                (a) first, by the chief executive of the law enforcement agency conducting the
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        investigation;
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                (b) second, by the county or district attorney in the jurisdiction in which the crime occurred or the
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        person went missing;

Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-2
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. Ray moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 449, as amended, out favorably.
Rep. Ray's motion to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 449, as amended, out favorablypassed with a vote 10-0-1.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-1
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. E. Redd
5. H.B. 468 Residential Vocational and Life Skills Program Amendments (Ray, P.)
Rep. Ray presented the bill with the assistance of Mr. Scott Howe, The Other Side Academy.
Mr. Stan Rasmussen, Vice President, Policy and Operations, Sutherland Institute, spoke in favor of the bill.
Mr. Tim Stay, CEO, The Other Side Academy, spoke in favor of the bill.
Mr. David Durocher, Managing Director, The Other Side Academy, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to amend H.B. 468 with Amendment #2. The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-0.
Amendment 2
H.B. 468
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                (e) the name and residential address of any officer, director, { owner, } manager, or
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        administrator of the residential, vocational and life skills program;

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                (g) a disclosure indicating whether any officer, director, { owner, } or administrator of the
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        residential, vocational and life skills program has been the subject of an administrative action
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        by the division;

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                (h) a disclosure indicating whether any officer, director, { owner, } or administrator of the
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        residential, vocational and life skills program has been convicted of a felony or a crime of
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        moral turpitude within the previous 10 years;

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                (5) An applicant for the registration of a residential, vocational and life skills program
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        shall file a separate application and pay a separate application fee for each residential,
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        vocational and life skills program location.
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        {           (6) A residential, vocational and life skills program that is registered under this section
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        is not required to obtain a license as a human services program, even if the residential,
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        vocational and life skills program also meets the description of a human services program. }
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                { (7) } (6) The division may make rules in accordance with Title 63G, Chapter 3, Utah
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        Administrative Rulemaking Act, to implement the registration application process.
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                { (8) } (7) The division may set fees in accordance with Section 63J-1-504 for a residential,
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        vocational and life skills program registration application.

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                (i) pro forma financial statements until further information described in Subsection
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        (2)(b) is available; and
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                (ii) a commercial credit report for the residential, vocational and life skills program;
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        { and } or
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        {           (iii) a consumer credit report for each individual with an ownership interest in the
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        residential, vocational and life skills program; or }
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                (b) for a residential, vocational and life skills program that has completed a fiscal year,
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        and as soon as the residential, vocational and life skills program completes its first fiscal year:
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                (i) a current financial statement, with all applicable footnotes, for the most recent fiscal
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        year, including a balance sheet, a statement of income, a statement of retained earnings, and a
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        statement of cash flow; and
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                (ii) a certified fiscal audit of the residential, vocational and life skills program's
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        financial statement, performed by a certified or licensed public accountant { ; } .
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        {           (iii) a commercial credit report for the residential, vocational and life skills program;
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        and
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                  (iv) a consumer credit report for each individual with an ownership interest in the
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        residential, vocational and life skills program. }

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                (i) is owned or operated by any individual { with an ownership interest in } who is an officer, a director, or an administrator of the residential,
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        vocational and life skills program; and

Yeas - 11Nays-0Abs-0
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
MOTION: Rep. Romero moved to pass H.B. 468, as amended, out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-0.
Yeas - 11Nays-0Abs-0
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
6. H.B. 443 Offender Supervision Amendments (Ray, P.)
Rep. Ray presented the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Miles moved to pass H.B. 443 out favorably. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-1.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-1
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. R. Edwards
MOTION: Rep. Hutchings moved to place H.B. 443 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-1.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-1
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. R. Edwards
7. H.B. 345 Driving Under the Influence Amendments (Kwan, K.)
Rep. Karen Kwan presented the bill with the assistance of Mr. David Morris, President, Utah Hospitality Association, Ms. Michelle Corigliano, Executive Director, Salt Lake Area Restaurant Association, and Mr. Marshall Thompson, Director, Utah Sentencing Commission.
Captain Steven Winwood, Utah Highway Patrol, spoke to the bill.
Mr. Carlson spoke to the bill.
Mr. Alexander Castagno, President, Civolicy, spoke in favor of the bill.
Mr. Rasmussen spoke in opposition to the bill.
Rep. Norm Thurston spoke in opposition to the bill.
Ms. Gayle Ruzicka, Utah Eagle Forum, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Mr. Zane Homlquist, Vice President, Food & Beverage and Corporate Chef, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Rep. Romero moved to amend H.B. 345 with Amendment #2.
Amendment 2
H.B. 345
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                ▸         delays the effective date of the reduction of the blood alcohol concentration limit
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        from .08 to .05 until December 30, { 2022 } 2019 ;

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                This bill takes effect on December 30, [2018.] { 2022 } 2019 , except that the changes to Sections
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        41-6a-501 (Effective December 30, 2018) and 41-6a-529 (Effective December 30, 2018) take
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        effect on May 8, 2018.

SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to replace H.B. 345 with 1st Substitute H.B. 345. The Substitute motion failed with a vote of 2-6-3.
Yeas - 2Nays-6Abs-3
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. Romero's motion to amend H.B. 345 with Amendment #2passed with a vote 8-0-3.
Yeas - 8Nays-0Abs-3
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
MOTION: Rep. Romero moved to pass H.B. 345, as amended, out favorably. The motion failed with a vote of 3-5-3.
Yeas - 3Nays-5Abs-3
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Rep. Ray moved to table H.B. 345. The Substitute motion failed with a vote of 4-4-3.
Yeas - 4Nays-4Abs-3
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. Romero's motion to pass H.B. 345 out favorably as amended failed with a vote 3-5-3.
Yeas - 3Nays-5Abs-3
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. E. Weight
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. L. Perry
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. E. Hutchings
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. Ray moved to adjourn.
Chair Perry adjourned the meeting at 6:36 p.m.