MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE
Wednesday, February 28, 2018 • 4:00 p.m. • 20 House Building


Members Present:
Rep. Michael K. McKell, Chair
Rep. V. Lowry Snow, Vice Chair
Rep. Kim F. Coleman
Rep. Bruce R. Cutler
Rep. Brian M. Greene
Rep. Ken Ivory
Rep. Brian S. King
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Dixon M. Pitcher
Rep. Susan Pulsipher
Rep. Tim Quinn
Rep. Mark A. Wheatley

Staff Present:
Mr. Joseph T. Wade, Policy Analyst
Mr. Steve Benard, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Vice Chair Snow called the meeting to order at 4:21 p.m.
MOTION: Rep. Ivory moved to approve the February 27, 2018, meeting minutes. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-2
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. M. Wheatley
1. H.B. 466 Wildland Fire Liability Amendments (McKell, M.)
Rep. Mike K. McKell explained the bill with the assistance of Brett Parkinson.
Mr. Brian Cottam, Director, Utah Division of Forestry, Fire, and State Lands, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Dan Petersen, Fire Chief, Unified Fire Authority, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Jeff Peterson, Utah Rural Electric Co-ops, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Eric Maxfield, attorney for Intermountain Power Agency, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Jon Cox, Rocky Mountain Power, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Karl Lieb, Salt Lake City Fire Dept Chief, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Brian Nelson, Director of Risk Management, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Ryan Loose, Utah League of Cities and Towns, spoke against the bill.
MOTION: Rep. King moved to amend H.B. 466 with Amendment 3. The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-0.
Amendment 3
H.B. 466
1.        Page 1, Lines 12 through 18: 
12                 ▸         states that a person who negligently, recklessly, or intentionally causes a wildland
13         fire shall be liable for damages and the cost of suppressing the fire;
14                 ▸         states that a person that negligently, recklessly, or intentionally causes a wildland fire through the operation, maintenance,
15         or use of any instrumentality of the person's shall be liable for all damages resulting
16         from the wildland fire;
17                 ▸         states that a person or a property owner who suffers damage from a wildland fire may bring an
18         action to recover damages, costs, and reasonable attorney fees;

2.        Page 2, Lines 41 through 49: 
41                 (2) (a) The conduct described in Subsection (1) includes any negligent, reckless, or
42         intentional conduct, and is not limited to conduct described in Section 65A-3-2.
43                 (b) Notwithstanding { Subsection (1) or (2)(a) or } any provision of Title 63G, Chapter 7,
44         Governmental Immunity Act of Utah, when a person negligently, recklessly, or intentionally causes a wildland fire through the
45         operation, maintenance, or use of any instrumentality of the person, the person shall be liable
46         for all damages resulting from the wildland fire, including the cost of suppression.
47                 (3) (a) [A person who incurs] A person or a property owner who suffers damage from a wildland
48         fire, including incurring costs to suppress a wildland fire, may bring an action under this section to
49         recover [those costs] damages resulting from the fire and attorney fees.

Yeas - 12Nays-0Abs-0
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
MOTION: Rep. King moved to amend H.B. 466 with Amendment 4. The motion passed with a vote of 11-1-0.
Amendment 4
H.B. 466
1.        Page 2, Lines 43 through 46: 
43                 (b) { Notwithstanding } Subsection (1) or (2)(a) or { any provision of Title 63G, Chapter 7,
44         Governmental Immunity Act of Utah, } when a person causes a wildland fire through the
45         operation, maintenance, or use of any instrumentality of the person, the person shall be liable
46         for all damages resulting from the wildland fire, including the cost of suppression.

Yeas - 11Nays-1Abs-0
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. King moved to report a favorable recommendation on H.B. 466, as amended.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Rep. Quinn moved to hold H.B. 466. The Substitute motion passed with a vote of 7-5-0.
Yeas - 7Nays-5Abs-0
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. Greene assumed the chair.
2. H.B. 427 Custody Amendments (Snow, V. L.)
Rep. V. Lowry Snow explained the bill with the assistance of Stewart Ralphs, Legal Aid Society.
Ms. Cherie Raymond, spoke in favor of the bill.
Ms. Melinda Robinson, Stop Abuse Campaign, spoke in favor of the bill.
Ms. Annika Coleman, Stop Abuse Campaign, spoke in favor of the bill.
Ms. Amber North, Stop Abuse Campaign, spoke in favor of the bill.
Ms. Brinley North spoke in favor of the bill.
Ms. Jaycey Skinner, Administrative Office of the Courts, spoke to the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Pitcher moved to report a favorable recommendation on H.B. 427. The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-0.
Yeas - 12Nays-0Abs-0
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Chair McKell resumed the chair.
3. H.B. 440 Presentence Investigation and Probation Report Amendments (Hutchings, E.)
Rep. Eric K. Hutchings explained the bill with the assistance of Dr. Victor Kersey.
MOTION: Rep. Cutler moved to report a favorable recommendation on H.B. 440. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-3
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. M. Wheatley
MOTION: Rep. Pitcher moved to place H.B. 440 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays-0Abs-3
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. M. Wheatley
4. H.J.R. 17 Proposal to Amend Utah Constitution -- Right to Pursue Trade, Vocation, Occupation, or Career (Greene, B.)
Rep. Brian M. Greene explained the bill.
Ms. Kate Bradshaw spoke against the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Greene moved to amend H.J.R. 17 with Amendment 1. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Amendment 1
H.J.R. 17
1.        Page 1, Line 28 through Page 2, Line 31: 
28                 Government may not infringe on the individual, inalienable right of the people to
29         pursue an honest trade, vocation, occupation, or career, unless the infringement is narrowly
30         tailored to protect against { a present, recognizable } identifiable, likely , and significant harm to public health or
31         safety.

Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-2
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Quinn
MOTION: Rep. Coleman moved to report a favorable recommendation on H.J.R. 17, as amended. The motion failed with a vote of 3-7-2.
Yeas - 3Nays-7Abs-2
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Quinn
5. H.B. 451 Court Commissioner Amendments (Miles, K.)
Rep. Kelly B. Miles explained the bill.
MOTION: Rep. Pitcher moved to report a favorable recommendation on H.B. 451. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-2
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Quinn
MOTION: Rep. Pitcher moved to place H.B. 451 on the Consent Calendar. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-2
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Quinn
Vice Chair Snow assumed the chair.
6. H.B. 359 Allocation of Fault Amendments (McKell, M.)
Rep. Mike K. McKell explained the bill with the assistance of Mr. Edward Havas, Utah Association for Justice.
Mr. Joseph Rust spoke against the bill.
Mr. Dave Davis, President, Retail Merchants Association, spoke to the bill.
Mr. Marshall Thompson, Utah Sentencing Commission, spoke in favor of the bill.
Mr. Dave Gessel, Utah Hospital Association, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Todd Turnblom, Utah Defense Lawyers Association, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Michael Parker, Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce, spoke against the bill.
Mr. Lance Milne, UAJ, spoke to the bill.
MOTION: Rep. McKell moved to hold H.B. 359. The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays-0Abs-4
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. M. Wheatley
MOTION: Rep. Pitcher moved to adjourn. The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays-0Abs-4
Rep. K. Coleman
Rep. B. Greene
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. D. Pitcher
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. B. Cutler
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. M. Wheatley
Vice Chair Snow adjourned the meeting at 7:35 p.m.