| Members Present: Sen. Curtis S. Bramble, Chair Rep. James A. Dunnigan, Chair Sen. Gene Davis Sen. Karen Mayne Sen. Jerry W. Stevenson Sen. Todd Weiler Rep. Susan Duckworth Rep. Gage Froerer Rep. Timothy D. Hawkes Rep. John Knotwell Rep. Michael K. McKell Rep. Val K. Potter Rep. Marc K. Roberts | Rep. Scott D. Sandall Rep. R. Curt Webb Rep. Mark A. Wheatley Rep. Mike Winder Members Absent: Sen. Ralph Okerlund Rep. Mike Schultz Staff Present: Mr. Adam J. Sweet, Policy Analyst Ms. Christine R. Gilbert, Associate General Counsel Ms. Amy L. West, Associate General Counsel Mr. Joshua M. Weber, Administrative Assistant |
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Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the
meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
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| 1. Committee Business |
| 2. Long-Term Planning |
| Mr. Sweet discussed an item submitted by the Labor Commission as part of the committee's long-term planning emphasis. |
| 3. Interim Planning and Study Item Approval |
| MOTION: Rep. Potter moved to add the amusement ride safety and liability concerns to the interim study guide. The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-7. | |||
| Yeas - 12 | Nays-0 | Abs-7 | |
| Sen. C. Bramble Rep. S. Duckworth Rep. J. Dunnigan Rep. G. Froerer Rep. T. Hawkes Rep. J. Knotwell Rep. V. Potter Rep. S. Sandall Sen. J. Stevenson Rep. R. Webb Rep. M. Wheatley Rep. M. Winder | Sen. G. Davis Sen. K. Mayne Rep. M. McKell Sen. R. Okerlund Rep. M. Roberts Rep. M. Schultz Sen. T. Weiler |
| MOTION: Rep. Dunnigan moved to add the Labor Commission study item to the interim study guide. The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-7. | |||
| Yeas - 12 | Nays-0 | Abs-7 | |
| Sen. C. Bramble Rep. S. Duckworth Rep. J. Dunnigan Rep. G. Froerer Rep. T. Hawkes Rep. J. Knotwell Rep. V. Potter Rep. S. Sandall Sen. J. Stevenson Rep. R. Webb Rep. M. Wheatley Rep. M. Winder | Sen. G. Davis Sen. K. Mayne Rep. M. McKell Sen. R. Okerlund Rep. M. Roberts Rep. M. Schultz Sen. T. Weiler |
| MOTION: Rep. Duckworth moved to adopt the interim study list as amended. The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-7. | |||
| Yeas - 12 | Nays-0 | Abs-7 | |
| Sen. C. Bramble Rep. S. Duckworth Rep. J. Dunnigan Rep. G. Froerer Rep. T. Hawkes Rep. J. Knotwell Rep. V. Potter Rep. S. Sandall Sen. J. Stevenson Rep. R. Webb Rep. M. Wheatley Rep. M. Winder | Sen. G. Davis Sen. K. Mayne Rep. M. McKell Sen. R. Okerlund Rep. M. Roberts Rep. M. Schultz Sen. T. Weiler |
| MOTION: Rep. Sandall moved to allow the chairs to open committee bill files. The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-6. | |||
| Yeas - 13 | Nays-0 | Abs-6 | |
| Sen. C. Bramble Rep. S. Duckworth Rep. J. Dunnigan Rep. G. Froerer Rep. T. Hawkes Rep. J. Knotwell Rep. V. Potter Rep. S. Sandall Sen. J. Stevenson Rep. R. Webb Sen. T. Weiler Rep. M. Wheatley Rep. M. Winder | Sen. G. Davis Sen. K. Mayne Rep. M. McKell Sen. R. Okerlund Rep. M. Roberts Rep. M. Schultz |
| MOTION: Rep. Hawkes moved to approve the minutes. The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-6. | |||
| Yeas - 13 | Nays-0 | Abs-6 | |
| Sen. C. Bramble Rep. S. Duckworth Rep. J. Dunnigan Rep. G. Froerer Rep. T. Hawkes Rep. J. Knotwell Rep. V. Potter Rep. S. Sandall Sen. J. Stevenson Rep. R. Webb Sen. T. Weiler Rep. M. Wheatley Rep. M. Winder | Sen. G. Davis Sen. K. Mayne Rep. M. McKell Sen. R. Okerlund Rep. M. Roberts Rep. M. Schultz |
| 4. Payroll Tax Fraud |
| Mathew Capece, Representative of the General President, United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America, spoke to the issue. |
| Patrick Bieker, Lead Representative, Southwest Regional Council of Carpenters, discussed issues surrounding payroll tax fraud and labor law violations in the state. |
| Greg Letey, CEO, Daw Construction Group, spoke to the issue. |
| Mike Skalla, Manager, Daw Construction Group, spoke to the issue. |
| Barry Conover, Executive Director, State Tax Commission, spoke to the issue. |
| Scott Johnson, Criminal Investigation Division, Internal Revenue Service, spoke to the issue. |
| Chris Hill, Deputy Commissioner, Labor Commission, discussed issues the Labor Commission has encountered in their investigations of payroll tax fraud. |
| Brendan Call, Section Chief, Office of the Attorney General, discussed the role of the Attorney General's Office in the investigations of payroll tax fraud. |
| Todd Kiser, Commissioner, Insurance Department, discussed the department's role in payroll tax fraud. |
| Scott Westra, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, WCF Insurance, discussed the resources that WCF Insurance provides in reporting and investigating payroll tax fraud. |
| 5. Peer-to-Peer Rentals: Vehicle Rentals |
| Lou Bertuca, Senior Manager Government Relations, Turo, gave an overview of the Turo and its role in peer-to-peer vehicle rentals. He responded to questions from the committee. |
| Mike Taylor, Vice President, Budget Rent a Car; President, Car and Truck Rental and Leasing Association, discussed why peer-to-peer vehicle rental services should be taxed the same as car rental companies. He responded to questions from the committee. |
| Jesse Hubbard, President, Rugged Rental and Sales, discussed some of the challenges that car and truck rental companies are facing and how those challenges can be addressed through taxation. |
| Howard Headlee, President and Chief Executive Officer, Utah Bankers Association, described the association's role and consumer protection within the car rental industry and peer-to-peer vehicle rentals. |
| Shule Bishop, Utah Credit Union Association, discussed car rental insurance liability and how it relates to peer-to-peer vehicle rentals. |
| Eric Erickson, CEO, Bear River Insurance, discussed the complications with insurance coverage and consumer protection for users of peer-to-peer vehicle rental services. He responded to questions from the committee. |
| Lou Bertuca answered questions from the committee. |
| Todd Kiser responded to questions from the committee. |
| 6. Other Items/Adjourn |
| MOTION: Sen. Davis moved to adjourn. The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-11. | |||
| Yeas - 8 | Nays-0 | Abs-11 | |
| Sen. C. Bramble Sen. G. Davis Rep. J. Dunnigan Rep. J. Knotwell Rep. V. Potter Rep. R. Webb Rep. M. Wheatley Rep. M. Winder | Rep. S. Duckworth Rep. G. Froerer Rep. T. Hawkes Sen. K. Mayne Rep. M. McKell Sen. R. Okerlund Rep. M. Roberts Rep. S. Sandall Rep. M. Schultz Sen. J. Stevenson Sen. T. Weiler |