MINUTES OF THE
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES INTERIM COMMITTEE
Monday, November 26, 2018 • 3:00 p.m. • 210 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Lincoln Fillmore, Chair
Rep. Brad M. Daw, Chair
Sen. Allen M. Christensen
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Sen. Peter C. Knudson
Sen. Brian Zehnder
Rep. Stewart E. Barlow
Rep. Rebecca Chavez-Houck
Rep. Rebecca P. Edwards
Rep. Steve Eliason
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Kelly B. Miles
Rep. Paul Ray
Rep. Edward H. Redd
Rep. Robert M. Spendlove
Rep. Raymond P. Ward

Members Absent:
Rep. Michael S. Kennedy

Staff Present:
Mr. Mark D. Andrews, Policy Analyst
Ms. Karin M. Rueff, Policy Analyst
Mr. Daniel M. Cheung, Associate General Counsel
Ms. Tara Harrison, Associate General Counsel
Ms. Andrea Crabb, Administrative Assistant

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Daw called the meeting to order at 3:10 p.m.
1. Committee Business
MOTION: Rep. Lisonbee moved to approve the November 14, 2018, meeting minutes. The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-5.
Yeas - 13Nays-0Abs-5
Rep. B. Daw
Rep. R. Edwards
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. P. Knudson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. B. Zehnder
Rep. S. Barlow
Rep. R. Chavez-Houck
Sen. A. Christensen
Rep. M. Kennedy
Rep. P. Ray
2. Medical Cannabis
Draft legislation: Utah Medical Cannabis Act (11-21-18 DRAFT; 2018S3-0001/012)
Overviews and Summaries of Utah Medical Cannabis Act (11-21-18 DRAFT; 2018S3-0001012)
Speaker Hughes explained the changes made to the draft legislation, "Utah Medical Cannabis Act."
Speaker Hughes responded to questions from the committee.
Ms. Miranda Wilson expressed concerns about the bill.
Mr. Roger Sondiup expressed concerns about the bill.
Ms. Debra Jenson expressed concerns about the bill.
Mr. Dave Nuttall spoke in favor of speeding up the availability of medical cannabis in Utah.
Ms. Laura Bunker, Family Policy Resource, spoke in support of the bill.
Mr. George Chapman spoke in opposition to the bill.
Ms. Merle French expressed concerns about the bill.
Ms. Mica Medford expressed concerns about the bill and made recommendations.
Ms. Pam Harrison expressed concerns about the bill.
Mr. Rocky Anderson, representing TRUCE (Together for Responsible Use and Cannabis Education) and the Epilepsy Association of Utah, expressed concerns about the bill.
The Bill to Replace Proposition 2 (Source: Patient Advocacy Groups, TRUCE, and Epilepsy Association of Utah
Mr. Gary Clark, TRUCE, expressed concerns about the bill.
Ms. Jessica Five Ash, TRUCE, expressed concerns about the bill.
Mr. Doug Rice, President, Epilepsy Association of Utah and caregiver of a child with epilepsy, spoke in opposition to the bill and in support of Proposition 2.
Mr. Ken Shifrar, Pharmacist, expressed concerns about the bill and spoke in opposition to the bill and in support of Proposition 2.
Ms. Christine Stenquist, President, TRUCE, expressed concerns about the bill.
Ms. Kelly Jones expressed concerns about the bill.
Ms. Mechelle Cebrowski expressed concerns about the bill and spoke in opposition to the bill and in support of Proposition 2.
Mr. Jonathan Bejarano spoke in support of the bill.
Ms. Heidi Clark spoke against the bill expressed concerns about the bill and spoke in opposition to the bill and in support of Proposition 2.
Mr. Crue Kopecky, TRUCE, expressed concerns about the bill and recommended the Legislature look at the Metrc system used in Oregon, Colorado, and Alaska to track cannabis from seed to sale.
Mr. Walter Mason, TRUCE/Epilepsy Association of Utah, expressed concerns about the bill.
Chair Daw recessed the meeting at 6:01 p.m.
Chair Daw reconvened the meeting at 6:29 p.m.
Ms. Kirsten Park, TRUCE, expressed concerns about the bill.
Ms. Margo Thurman, Epilepsy Foundation and Epilepsy Foundation of Utah, submitted a written statement urging "the legislature to allow Proposition 2 to go into effect" and imploring the Legislature "to carefully consider the negative impact some provisions" of the bill "will have on access for individuals who need it most", should the bill go forward. In her oral comments shed indicated the associations support the bill as long as access to care is preserved and prescribing cap is removed.
Letter from the Epilepsy Foundation of Utah
Ms. Dani Palmer, representing Utah Eagle Forum herself, and an unidentified organization, expressed concerns about the bill.
Ms. Susan Manning expressed concerns about the bill and made recommendations.
Mr. Sean Peterson spoke in support of a change to Proposition 2 made by the bill.
Ms. Charity Peterson spoke about the bill and her son who has epilepsy.
Mr. Charles Bevan spoke about cannabis.
Mr. Nathan Frodsham, representing Latter-day Saint patients, spoke in support of the bill.
Ms. Dawn Nunn spoke in support of Proposition 2.
Mr. Alexander Hardy spoke about medical cannabis and indicated that medical cannabis systems in other states are working.
Ms. Sandi Stoker, an acute care registered nurse, asked that the ability of patients to obtain cannabis not be limited.
Mr. Walter Plumb, Drug Safe Utah, spoke in support of the bill if certain changes are made.
Ms. Gayle Ruzicka, Utah Eagle Forum, expressed support for the majority of changes made to Proposition 2 by the bill. She also expressed concerns about the bill.
Mr. David Herring, Drug Safe Utah, spoke in support of the bill. He also expressed concerns about the bill.
Dr. Bonnie Kilgannon, representing her patients and other healthcare providers who believe medical cannabis should be legal in the state, expressed concerns about the bill.
Mr. Andrew Talbott expressed concerns about the bill.
Mr. Justin Arriola, TRUCE, stated that he represents patients and veterans in Utah, spoke about the bill and made a recommendation.
Ms. Mary Casey expressed concerns about the bill and made recommendations.
Ms. Virginia Lee requested clarification about how the bill will affect the availability of cannabidiol.
Mr. Will Carlson, Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office, expressed concerns about the bill and made recommendations.
Ms. Gigi Whaley-Pryor, APRN (advanced practice registered nurse), expressed concerns about the bill and made a recommendation.
Mr. John Barnes, Veritec Solutions, described Florida's electronic data system for medical cannabis. He said Utah should ensure that its electronic data system provider for medical cannabis has a regulatory focus and does not provide services that conflict with entities that could compromise the integrity of the medical cannabis program.
Mr. Aaron Masover expressed concerns about the bill.
Mr. James Rounds expressed concerns about the bill.
Mr. Travis Remington, Co-founder of the Beehive Cannabis Club, spoke about medical cannabis.
Mr. Joe Russo spoke about traumatic brain injury and in support of Proposition 2 and made recommendations.
Mr. Scott Ericson, Deputy Commissioner, Utah Department of Agriculture and Food, spoke about implementation of the bill, contrasted the bill with Proposition 2, and made recommendations.
Mr. Mark Babitz, Deputy Director, Department of Health, indicated the department has formed a strike team to address implementation of the bill.
Mr. Rich Oborn, project lead at the Department of Health for implementing Proposition 2 and any agreement that may come forth from the Legislature. He indicated how the department sees the bill as a step forward, discussed actions the department is taking to implement Proposition 2, and made recommendations.
Mr. Paul Edwards, Deputy Chief of Staff, Governor's Office, expressed support for the bill. He indicated the executive branch is very confident it will be able to meet the statutory deadlines in the bill, and its effort will be to beat those deadlines.
Speaker Hughes addressed issues raised during public comment and indicated that Senator Evan J. Vickers will sponsor the bill.
3. Adjourn
MOTION: Sen. Fillmore moved to adjourn. The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-5.
Yeas - 13Nays-0Abs-5
Rep. S. Barlow
Rep. R. Chavez-Houck
Sen. A. Christensen
Rep. B. Daw
Rep. R. Edwards
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. E. Redd
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. R. Ward
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. M. Kennedy
Sen. P. Knudson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Sen. B. Zehnder
Chair Daw adjourned the meeting.