| Members Present: Rep. Karianne Lisonbee, Chair Rep. Craig Hall, Vice Chair Rep. Cheryl K. Acton Rep. Brady Brammer Rep. Jon Hawkins Rep. Eric K. Hutchings Rep. Brian S. King | Rep. Stephanie Pitcher Rep. Travis M. Seegmiller Rep. V. Lowry Snow Rep. Steve Waldrip Rep. Mark A. Wheatley Staff Present: Mr. Steve Benard, Session Secretary Mr. Joseph T. Wade, Policy Analyst |
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Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the
meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
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| Chair Lisonbee called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m. |
| 1. H.B. 308 Abuse of Process and Demand Letters Amendments (Thurston, N.) |
| Rep. Norman K. Thurston explained the bill with the assistance of Ms. Cathy Dupont, Administrative Office of the Courts, and Mr. Frank Pignanelli representing the Utah State Bar. |
| MOTION: Rep. Waldrip moved to go to the next item on the agenda and recommend that the Judiciary Interim Committee study H.B. 308. The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4. | |||
| Yeas - 8 | Nays-0 | Abs-4 | |
| Rep. B. Brammer Rep. C. Hall Rep. J. Hawkins Rep. B. King Rep. K. Lisonbee Rep. T. Seegmiller Rep. S. Waldrip Rep. M. Wheatley | Rep. C. Acton Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. S. Pitcher Rep. V. Snow |
| 2. H.B. 422 Marriage Code Revisions (Handy, S.) |
| Rep. Stephen G. Handy explained the bill with the assistance of Mr. Lynn Taylor, Weber County Clerk-Auditor's office. |
| MOTION: Rep. Hawkins moved to report a favorable recommendation on H.B. 422. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3. | |||
| Yeas - 9 | Nays-0 | Abs-3 | |
| Rep. B. Brammer Rep. C. Hall Rep. J. Hawkins Rep. B. King Rep. K. Lisonbee Rep. T. Seegmiller Rep. V. Snow Rep. S. Waldrip Rep. M. Wheatley | Rep. C. Acton Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. S. Pitcher |
| MOTION: Rep. King moved to approve the minutes of the February 27 and March 1, 2019, meetings. The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3. | |||
| Yeas - 9 | Nays-0 | Abs-3 | |
| Rep. B. Brammer Rep. C. Hall Rep. J. Hawkins Rep. B. King Rep. K. Lisonbee Rep. T. Seegmiller Rep. V. Snow Rep. S. Waldrip Rep. M. Wheatley | Rep. C. Acton Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. S. Pitcher |
| 3. H.B. 399 Prohibition of the Practice of Conversion Therapy upon Minors (Hall, C.) |
| At the last meeting, the sponsor explained the bill and committee members asked questions. Chair Lisonbee opened public comment. |
| Dr. Christy Cane spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Taryn Hiatt, Utah Chapter for American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Caleb spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Mr. Jerry Buie, licensed clinical social worker and professor at the University of Utah, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Julia spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Christina Zidow, licensed clinical social worker, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Erin Brewer spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Mr. Arturo Fuentes spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Mr. Stephen Done spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Dr. Nan Klein, Utah Psychological Association, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Dr. Jeff Robinson, marriage and family therapist, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Erika Munson, Mormons Building Bridges, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Dr. Jeff Bennion spoke in favor of the substitute version of the bill, which substitute version was not identified. |
| Mr. Jeremy Christensen, Division of Substance Abuse and Mental Health, Department of Human Services, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Mr. Geoffrey Heath, Board of Directors, Alliance for Therapeutic Choice and Scientific Integrity, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Rep. Lisonbee read a statement from Mr. Ron Gordon of the Governor's office, which is supportive of substitute #4. |
| Ms. Jody Hansen spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Joan Landes spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Debra Oaks Coe, LGBT suicide prevention workgroup, spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Dr. Laura Haynes, National Task Force for Therapy Equality, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Jen Specchiale spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Mr. Curtis Brown spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Laura Wright spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Mr. Michael Erickson spoke in opposition to some substitutes of the bill. |
| Ms. Taylor Stringam spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Merrilee Boyack, Utah Chapter of Family Watch International, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Mr. Dominic Hussein spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Mr. Thomas Johnson, author, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Nicole Chaves spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Gayle Ruzicka, Utah Eagle Forum, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Kimberly Farley spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Natalie Cline, representing various organizations, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Dorothy Winters spoke in favor of the bill. |
| Ms. Nicholeen Peck, President Worldwide Organization for Women, spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Jessica Taylor spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Ms. Cherilyn Bacon Eager spoke in opposition to the bill. |
| Rep. Brammer moved to replace H.B. 399 with 4th Substitute H.B. 399. |
| Rep. Hall moved to replace H.B. 399 with 5th Substitute H.B. 399. |
| Rep. Hall explained the 5th substitute with assistance from Mr. Clifford Rosky, professor at University of Utah. |
| Rep. Brammer made a point of order. |
| MOTION: Rep. Hutchings moved to end debate. The motion passed with a vote of 11-1-0. | |||
| Yeas - 11 | Nays-1 | Abs-0 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. B. Brammer Rep. C. Hall Rep. J. Hawkins Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. K. Lisonbee Rep. S. Pitcher Rep. T. Seegmiller Rep. V. Snow Rep. S. Waldrip Rep. M. Wheatley | Rep. B. King |
| Rep. Hall's motion to replace H.B. 399 with 5th Substitute H.B. 399failed with a vote 5-7-0. | |||
| Yeas - 5 | Nays-7 | Abs-0 | |
| Rep. C. Hall Rep. B. King Rep. S. Pitcher Rep. S. Waldrip Rep. M. Wheatley | Rep. C. Acton Rep. B. Brammer Rep. J. Hawkins Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. K. Lisonbee Rep. T. Seegmiller Rep. V. Snow |
| Rep. Brammer's motion to replace H.B. 399 with 4th Substitute H.B. 399passed with a vote 8-4-0. | |||
| Yeas - 8 | Nays-4 | Abs-0 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. B. Brammer Rep. J. Hawkins Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. K. Lisonbee Rep. T. Seegmiller Rep. V. Snow Rep. S. Waldrip | Rep. C. Hall Rep. B. King Rep. S. Pitcher Rep. M. Wheatley |
| MOTION: Rep. Brammer moved to report a favorable recommendation on 4th Substitute H.B. 399. The motion passed with a vote of 8-4-0. | |||
| Yeas - 8 | Nays-4 | Abs-0 | |
| Rep. C. Acton Rep. B. Brammer Rep. J. Hawkins Rep. E. Hutchings Rep. K. Lisonbee Rep. T. Seegmiller Rep. V. Snow Rep. S. Waldrip | Rep. C. Hall Rep. B. King Rep. S. Pitcher Rep. M. Wheatley |
| Chair Lisonbee adjourned the meeting at 10:05 a.m. |