MINUTES OF THE
BUSINESS AND LABOR INTERIM COMMITTEE
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 • 1:00 p.m. • 210 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Curtis S. Bramble, Chair
Rep. James A. Dunnigan, Chair
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Sen. Gene Davis
Sen. Daniel Hemmert
Sen. Karen Mayne
Sen. Daniel McCay
Rep. Susan Duckworth
Rep. Francis D. Gibson
Rep. Craig Hall
Rep. Timothy D. Hawkes
Rep. A. Cory Maloy
Rep. Michael K. McKell
Rep. Calvin R. Musselman
Rep. Derrin R. Owens
Rep. Tim Quinn
Rep. Casey Snider
Rep. Mark A. Wheatley
Rep. Mike Winder

Members Absent:
Rep. Mike Schultz

Staff Present:
Adam J. Sweet, Policy Analyst
Patrick Grecu, Associate General Counsel
Amy L. West, Associate General Counsel
Leila Reynolds, Administrative Assistant

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Bramble called the meeting to order at 1:10 p.m.
1. Committee Business
MOTION: Rep. Duckworth moved to approve the minutes of the August 18, 2020, meeting. The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-10.
Yeas - 10Nays-0Abs-10
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. C. Hall
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. D. Owens
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. M. Wheatley
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. F. Gibson
Sen. D. Hemmert
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Winder
Chair Bramble welcomed new staff attorney, Patrick Grecu.
2. Security Camera Prohibitions in Homeowner Associations
Sarah Mansfield presented on the matter.
The committee asked questions of Sarah Mansfield.
2A - Security Camera Prohibitions in Homeowner Associations (Source: Future Community Services, Inc.)
Michael Johnson, Chief Executive Officer, Future Community Services, Inc, presented on homeowner associations and the issues surrounding security cameras.
The committee asked questions of Sarah Mansfield and Michael Johnson.
MOTION: Sen. Davis moved to open a committee bill file to address the issue of homeowner associations not allowing doorbell cameras and security cameras in their communities. The motion passed with a vote of 17-0-3.
Yeas - 17Nays-0Abs-3
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. F. Gibson
Rep. C. Hall
Rep. T. Hawkes
Sen. D. Hemmert
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. D. Owens
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. Winder
Sen. K. Mayne
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. M. Schultz
3. Prescribed Medical Foods
Mac Haddow, Upstream Consulting, gave an overview of prescribed medical foods.
J.D. Weir, President and Chief Executive Officer, Primus Pharmaceuticals, explained what prescribed medical foods are.
The committee asked questions of J.D. Weir.
Lora Romney, Chair, International Plant and Herbal Alliance, spoke on the matter.
The committee asked questions of the presenters.
Cindy Steinberg, National Director of Policy and Advocacy, U.S. Pain Foundation, spoke on the matter. Chair Bramble asked questions of Cindy.
Michael Sonntag, Utah Health Insurance Association, spoke on the matter. Chair Bramble asked questions of Michael.
Chair Bramble opened the meeting to public comment.
MOTION: Rep. Quinn moved to move to the next item on the agenda. Rep. Quinn withdrew their motion.
ElLois Bailey, psychiatric nurse practitioner, asked that nurse practitioners and physician's assistants be considered in the future as also being able to prescribe medical foods.
Rep. Dunnigan commented on the issue.
MOTION: Rep. Quinn moved to move to the next item on the agenda, followed by committee discussion. The motion passed with a vote of 18-0-2.
Yeas - 18Nays-0Abs-2
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. C. Hall
Rep. T. Hawkes
Sen. D. Hemmert
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. D. Owens
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. F. Gibson
Rep. M. Schultz
4. Physician Assistants
4A - Inclusion of Psychiatric Physician Assistants in the Utah Mental Health Practice Act (Source: Utah Academy of Physician Assistants)
4B - Physician Assistant Practice in Utah: Issues, Facts, Solutions (Source: Utah Academy of Physician Assistants)
4C - Letter from the Utah Psychological Association
Jonathan Baird, Immediate Past President, Utah Academy of Physician Assistants, asked that Tim McCreary speak first.
Tim McCreary, President, Utah Academy of Physician Assistants, spoke on the need for physician assistants to also be allowed to be part of the Utah Mental Health Practice Act.
Rep. Dunnigan assumed the chair.
The committee asked questions of Tim McCreary.
Jonathan Baird, Immediate Past President, Utah Academy of Physician Assistants, presented on issues surrounding physician assistants in the Physician Assistant Practice Act.
Sen. Bramble resumed the chair.
Kim McFarlane, President-Elect, Utah Academy of Physician Assistants, spoke on the issues.
Rep. Dunnigan assumed the chair.
Mark A. Brinton, Esq., General Counsel & Director of Government Affairs, Utah Medical Association, spoke on the matter.
Sen. Bramble resumed the chair.
The committee asked questions of Mark Brinton.
Dr. Kirt Cundick, President, Utah Psychological Association, made a brief statement on the matter.
Dr. Christian Agricola, President, Utah Psychiatric Association, spoke on the matter and answered questions from the committee.
Chair Bramble opened the meeting to public comment.
Kim McFarlane made clarifying comments.
ElLois Bailey, psychiatric nurse practitioner, supports the physician assistants' efforts as long as they are properly trained, especially those working in the mental health field.
Samuel Vincent, member, Utah chapter of the American Psychiatric Nurses Association, supports PAs practicing in mental health as long as they have appropriate training.
Erika Tse, PA-C, spoke to the modernization efforts of the physician assistants and their personal experience with the issues of being unable to directly bill Medicaid despite patient population being 80% Medicaid.
Tim McCreary made additional comments.
Chair Bramble closed public comment and explained that they opened two bill files earlier in the year addressing the issues brought forward in this meeting.
MOTION: Rep. Quinn moved to make the two bill files opened under Senator Bramble's name committee bill files. The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-4.
Yeas - 16Nays-0Abs-4
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. C. Hall
Sen. D. Hemmert
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. F. Gibson
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. D. Owens
Rep. M. Schultz
5. Committee Business
MOTION: Sen. McCay moved to approve the approval of the minutes that were approved. The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-4.
Yeas - 16Nays-0Abs-4
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. C. Hall
Sen. D. Hemmert
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. F. Gibson
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. D. Owens
Rep. M. Schultz
6. Gig-Economy Worker Classification
Howard Stephenson, former state Senator, spoke on the issue.
MOTION: Rep. Dunnigan moved to open a bill file to address the issue. The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-4.
Yeas - 16Nays-0Abs-4
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. C. Hall
Sen. D. Hemmert
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. F. Gibson
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. D. Owens
Rep. M. Schultz
7. Vehicle Noise Pollution
Daniel Armstrong, City Council Member, Taylorsville City, presented an alternative method of mitigating the issue.
Lincoln Shurtz, Utah Association of Counties, expressed their support of efforts address the issue.
Barbara Cameron, Chair, Big Cottonwood Community Council, spoke on behalf of the Association of Community Councils Together, expressing the desire to enforce the ban of illegal mufflers and excessive vehicle noise.
Lt. Matt Spillman, Utah Highway Patrol, gave the perspective of law enforcement and what can reasonably be done.
Lt. Colonel Mark Zesiger, Utah Highway Patrol, reiterated what Lt. Spillman said.
Dr. Royal DeLegge, Environmental Health Director, Salt Lake County Health Department
Chair Bramble opened the meeting to public comment.
Jenna Malone, Councilperson, Brighton, encouraged the committee to take action on the issue.
Matthew Mudek, Resident, Big Cottonwood Canyon, reiterated what previous people said.
Barbara Cameron made additional comments.
The committee made comments and asked questions.
Matt Mudek made additional comments.
The committee made additional comments.
8. Required Reports
MOTION: Sen. Hemmert moved to authorize the chairs to open a bill file for the Unified Building Code modifications. The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-8.
Yeas - 12Nays-0Abs-8
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. C. Hall
Sen. D. Hemmert
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. Winder
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. F. Gibson
Rep. T. Hawkes
Sen. K. Mayne
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. D. Owens
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. M. Schultz
9. Other Items/Adjourn
MOTION: Rep. McKell moved to adjourn. The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-8.
Yeas - 12Nays-0Abs-8
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Duckworth
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. C. Hall
Sen. D. Hemmert
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. M. McKell
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. M. Winder
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. F. Gibson
Rep. T. Hawkes
Sen. K. Mayne
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. D. Owens
Rep. T. Quinn
Rep. M. Schultz
The committee adjourned at 4:30 p.m.