MINUTES OF THE
SOCIAL SERVICES APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE
Monday, January 25, 2021 • 8:00 a.m. • 30 House Building


Members Present:
Sen. Jacob L. Anderegg, Senate Chair
Rep. Paul Ray, House Chair
Rep. Raymond P. Ward, House Vice Chair
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Sen. Michael S. Kennedy
Sen. Daniel W. Thatcher
Sen. Todd D. Weiler
Rep. Steve R. Christiansen
Rep. Jennifer Dailey-Provost
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Marsha Judkins
Rep. Michael L. Kohler
Rep. Michael J. Petersen
Rep. Candice B. Pierucci
Rep. Norman K. Thurston

Members Absent:
President J. Stuart Adams
Sen. John D. Johnson

Staff Present:
Russell T. Frandsen, Finance Officer
Clare Tobin Lence, Finance Manager
Kimberly D. Madsen, Financial Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

1.8:00 Call to Order
Chair Anderegg called the meeting to order at 8:08 a.m.
2.8:00 Unfinished Items from the Previous Agenda
There were no unfinished items from the previous agenda.
3.8:00 Public Input on Topics on Today's Agenda
There was no public comment.
4.8:10 Kem C. Gardner Report on Homelessness (H.B. 440, 2020 General Session)
4a-Kem C. Gardner Utah Homeless Services: Governance Structure and Funding Model
4b-Kem C. Gardner Homelessness Report Highlights
4c-Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute Homeless Report Presentation
Natalie Gochnour, Director, Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute, presented the report.
Jonathan Hardy, Director, Division of Housing and Community Development, Department of Workforce Services (DWS), briefly discussed the highlights of the report.
Casey Cameron, Executive Director, DWS, provided additional information.
Rep. Judkins asked for more information regarding the Homeless Council and Natalie Gochnour, Shaleane Gee, Senior Advisor, SG Community Advisors, and Jonathan Hardy responded.
Clark Ivory, Ivory Homes, commented on the inclusivity of the committee and the desire of the philanthropic community to use its contributions in the most effective manner.
Rep. Dailey-Provost expressed gratitude for the work of the committee and requested more information on the outcome goals. Natalie Gochnour provided the information.
5.8:20 Intergenerational Poverty Updates and Annual Report
Casey Cameron, Executive Director, DWS, introduced the report to the committee.
Tracy Gruber, Interim Executive Director, Department of Human Services (DHS), continued with the presentation.
6.8:55 Workforce Services Base Budget Overview
6a-Issue Brief - 2021 General Session - Federal Funds - Department of Workforce Services
6b-DWS Facilities SFY2021
6c-DWS Funds Balances FY20
6e-DWS Caseloads FY20
6f-DWS Line Item Performance Measures FY20
Kimberly Madsen provided the overview of the DWS Base Budget.
6g-Issue Brief - 2021 General Session - Fees - Department of Workforce Services
The meeting was paused and taken online due to members of the public refusing to wear masks.
Rep. Ray reminded the public that this committee deals with high-risk individuals who need to be protected when they attend meetings.
The meeting resumed remotely.
Nathan Harrison, Director of Administrative Support, DWS, discussed the allocation of costs to federal funds and motion DA3.
Rep. Christiansen asked for clarification on the transfer of funds and Nathan Harrison responded.
MOTION:Rep. Ray moved to approve DA motions from the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for consideration" dated 1/27/2021.The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-4.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. S. Christiansen
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. Petersen
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. J. Adams
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. N. Thurston
7.9:05 Workforce Services Administration - Base Budget
7d-DWS Administration Expenditure Details FY20
Kimberly Madsen continued with her presentation, discussing budget reductions.
Nathan Harrison spoke to the reduction.
Rep. Dailey-Provost requested more information about the apprenticeship program.
Nathan McDonald, Deputy Director, DWS, explained the apprenticeship program.
Rep. Dailey-Provost expressed support for the program.
Rep. Ward asked how these programs are funded and Nathan Harrison responded.
Kimberly Madsen discussed the Federal Funds Brief.
Nathan Harrison provided additional information.
Kimberly Madsen and Nathan Harrison explained motions for the committee to consider.
Rep. Christiansen asked for more information regarding performance measures and Kimberly Madsen responded.
MOTION:Rep. Ray moved to approve the DB motions for the Administration line item on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/27/2021.The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-4.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. S. Christiansen
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. Petersen
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. D. Thatcher
Sen. T. Weiler
8.9:15 Workforce Services General Assistance - Base Budget
8a-DWS General Assistance Expenditure Details FY20
Kimberly Madsen discussed the request for federal funds.
Nathan Harrison provided additional information.
Kimberly Madsen continued with the presentation and explained a motion for the committee to consider.
Sen. Escamilla asked for information regarding the ongoing fees and Nathan Harrison and Kimberly Madsen responded.
Rep. Christiansen asked for additional information regarding a reduction in caseloads and Kimberly Madsen responded.
MOTION:Rep. Ray moved to approve the DC1 motion for General Assistance line item on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/27/2021.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. S. Christiansen
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. Petersen
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. P. Ray
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. T. Weiler
9.9:20 Workforce Services Housing and Community Development - Base Budget
9c-DWS Building Block Performance Measure Midyear Report
9f1-DWS Comm Dev Block Grant Expenditure Details
9f2-DWS HCD Expenditure Detail FY 2020
9f3-DWS Block Grants
Kimberly Madsen explained the DWS Base Budget.
Nathan Harrison stated DWS supported the reduction.
Nathan Harrison provided information regarding the proposed motions.
Rep. Christiansen asked for more information about the funding amounts and Nathan Harrison responded.
10.9:45 Follow Up on Status of Recommendations from "A Performance Audit of the Permanent Community Impact Fund"
11-CIB Audit Report Recommendations
11-Permanent Community Impact Fund Audit 2020-03
Jonathan Hardy discussed Follow Up on Status of Recommendations from "A Performance Audit of the Permanent Community Impact Fund."
Benn Buys, Audit Manager, Office of the Legislative Auditor General (OLAG), commended DWS for their work.
MOTION:Rep. Ward moved to approve the DD motions except DD2 and DD15 in the Housing and Community Development line item section on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/27/2021.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-7.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 7
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. S. Christiansen
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. Petersen
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. J. Johnson
Rep. P. Ray
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. T. Weiler
11.9:40 Workforce Services Olene Walker Housing Loan Fund - Base Budget
Kimberly Madsen discussed the Base Budget for the Olene Walker Housing Loan Fund.
MOTION:Rep. Ward moved to approve the motions in the Housing and Community Development line item section on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/27/2021.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. S. Christiansen
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. Petersen
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Sen. J. Johnson
Rep. P. Ray
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. T. Weiler
12.10:10 Workforce Services Operation Rio Grande Follow Up
14-DWS ORG Expenditure Details FY20
Nathan Harrison provided an update to Operation Rio Grande funds.
13.10:30 Workforce Services Nutrition Assistance - SNAP - Base Budget
15b-DWS Nutrition Assistance Expenditure Details FY20
Kimberly Madsen presented the report.
MOTION:Rep. Ward moved to approve the DE motion for the General Assistance line item on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/27/2021.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. S. Christiansen
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. Petersen
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Sen. J. Johnson
Rep. P. Ray
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. T. Weiler
14.10:35 Workforce Services Unemployment Insurance - Base Budget
16c-DWS Unemployment Insurance Expenditure Details FY20
Kimberly Madsen presented DWS Unemployment Insurance - Base Budget.
Kevin Burt, Director of Unemployment Insurance, DWS, explained the department's request for funds.
Rep. Christiansen asked for an update on spending on the project and Kevin Burt responded.
Kimberly Madsen discussed Building Block Performance Measures Midyear Report for CARES funding.
Rep. Ray assumed the chair.
Kevin Burt provided some additional information about the performance measures.
Kimberly Madsen continued with the presentation.
Rep. Christiansen asked for more information about increases in funding.
Kimberly Madsen and Nathan Harrison provided information about the Unemployment Insurance Expenditures and the DJ motions.
Sen. Anderegg resumed the chair.
MOTION:Rep. Ray moved to approve the DJ motions for the General Assistance line item on the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration" dated 1/27/2021.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. S. Christiansen
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. Petersen
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. P. Ray
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. T. Weiler
15.10:00 Workforce Services Permanent Community Impact/Community Development Capital - Base Budget
12-Private Activity Bonds
The agenda item was not discussed.
16.10:05 Workforce Services Special Services District - Base Budget
13-DWS Special Services District Expenditure Details FY20
The agenda item was not discussed.
MOTION:Sen. Thatcher moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. S. Christiansen
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. Petersen
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. P. Ray
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. T. Weiler
Chair Anderegg adjourned the meeting at 10:46 a.m.