MINUTES OF THE
BUSINESS AND LABOR INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, November 17, 2021 • 8:30 a.m. • 210 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Curtis S. Bramble, Chair
Rep. Joel Ferry, Chair
Sen. Gene Davis
Sen. Karen Mayne
Sen. Daniel McCay
Sen. Scott D. Sandall
Sen. Todd D. Weiler
Rep. Brady Brammer
Rep. Walt Brooks
Rep. Timothy D. Hawkes
Rep. Jon Hawkins
Rep. Brian S. King
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Ashlee Matthews
Rep. Casey Snider
Rep. Mark A. Strong
Rep. Mark A. Wheatley
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte
Rep. Mike Winder

Members Absent:
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Rep. Mike Schultz

Staff Present:
Adam J. Sweet, Policy Analyst
Patrick Grecu, Associate General Counsel
Amy L. West, Associate General Counsel
Lorna Wells, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Ferry called the meeting to order at 8:44 a.m.
1.Department of Commerce Transition Report Response
Margaret Busse, Executive Director, Department of Commerce, and Jacob Hart, Deputy Director, provided a transition response report.
3.1 PRESENTATION: Agency Transition Report (Source: Commerce)
Committee members asked questions of the presenters.
2.Draft Legislation "Licensing Amendments"
Director Bussey and Mark Steinagel, Director of the Division of Occupational and Professional Licensing (DOPL), discussed the proposed legislation.
2 - Licensing Amendments (2022 General Session Draft Legislation)
Sen. Bramble commented on the resources needed regarding the proposed legislation. Mark Steinagel responded.
Connor Boyack, Libertas Institute, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Sandall moved to recommend this draft legislation (File 2022FL0320 version 5) as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-7.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 7
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Ferry
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Matthews
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. M. Strong
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. G. Davis
Sen. S. Sandall
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. C. Snider
Sen. T. Weiler
3.Draft Legislation "Earned Wage Access Services Amendments"
Sen. Bramble discussed some concerns regarding the earned wage access draft legislation and stated that it will not be heard today.
4.Committee Business
Rep. Stephen Whyte introduced himself to the committee.
MOTION:Sen. Mayne moved to approve the minutes of the October 20, 2021, meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-5.
Yeas - 16Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. W. Brooks
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. J. Ferry
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Matthews
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. S. Sandall
Rep. M. Strong
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. C. Snider
5.Draft Legislation "Insurance Amendments"
Rep. James Dunnigan and Jon Pike, Commissioner, Insurance Department, introduced the proposed legislation.
4 - Insurance Amendments (2022 General Session Draft Legislation)
MOTION:Rep. Hawkins moved to recommend this draft legislation (2022FL0515 version 5) as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-5.
Yeas - 16Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. W. Brooks
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. J. Ferry
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Matthews
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. S. Sandall
Rep. M. Strong
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. C. Snider
6.Insurance Department Transition Report Response
Commissioner Pike discussed the department transition report.
7.Draft Legislation "Occupational and Professional Licensing Modifications"
Mark Steinagel and Debra Blackburn, Assistant Director, DOPL discussed the proposed legislation.
6 - Occupational and Professional Licensing Modifications (2022 General Session Draft Legislation)
Mark Brinton, General Counsel and Director of Government Affairs, Utah Medical Association, spoke to the bill.
Connor Boyack, Libertas Institute, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. McCay moved to recommend this draft legislation (file 2022FL0805 version 5) as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-7.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 7
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. J. Ferry
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Matthews
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. S. Sandall
Rep. M. Strong
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. C. Snider
8.Draft Legislation "State Construction Code Amendments"
Thomas Peterson, Chair, Uniform Building Code Commission, introduced this legislation.
7 - State Construction Code Amendments (2022 General Session Draft Legislation)
Coy Porter, State Fire Marshall, spoke in favor of the bill.
Ross Ford, Executive Vice President, Utah Home Builders Association, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. McCay moved to recommend this draft legislation (file 2022FL0692 version 5) as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-5.
Yeas - 16Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. W. Brooks
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. J. Ferry
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Matthews
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. S. Sandall
Rep. M. Strong
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. M. Winder
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. K. Mayne
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. C. Snider
9.Draft Legislation "Division of Consumer Protection Amendments"
Daniel O'Bannon, Director, Division of Consumer Protection, introduced this legislation.
9 - Division of Consumer Protection Amendments (2022 General Session Draft Legislation)
MOTION:Sen. McCay moved to recommend this draft legislation (file 2022FL0450 version 5) as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-6.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. W. Brooks
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. J. Ferry
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Matthews
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. M. Strong
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. M. Winder
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. S. Sandall
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. C. Snider
10.Draft Legislation "Business and Labor Reporting Requirements"
Adam Sweet, Policy Analyst, discussed this proposed legislation.
10 - Business and Labor Reporting Requirements (2022 General Session Draft Legislation)
10.2 PRESENTATION: Business and Labor Reporting Requirements (Source: OLRGC)
MOTION:Sen. Mayne moved to recommend this draft legislation (file 2022FL0793 version 4) as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-7.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Ferry
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Matthews
Sen. K. Mayne
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Strong
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. M. Winder
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. B. King
Sen. S. Sandall
Rep. M. Schultz
11.Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control Transition Report Response
Tiffany Clason, Executive Director, Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control, discussed the transition report.
11.1: Response to Agency Review (Source: DABC)
11.2 PRESENTATION: Transition Report (Source: DABC)
Several committee members asked questions of the presenter.
Kate Bradshaw, President, Utah Beer Wholesaler's Association spoke about the tremendous need for improved technology.
12.Labor Commission Transition Report Response
Jaceson Maughan, Commissioner, Labor Commission, discussed the transition report.
12.1: Response to Agency Review (Source: Labor Commission)
Sen. Mayne and Chair Ferry congratulated the labor commission for their great work during this challenging time.
13.Department of Financial Institutions Transition Report Response
Darryle Rude, Chief Examiner, Department of Finance Institutions, discussed the transition report and the agency response.
13.1: Department of Financial Institutions Agency Review (Source: DFI)
13.2: Response to Agency Review (Source: DFI
Frank Pignanelli, Executive Director, National Association of Industrial Bankers and Utah Association of Financial Services, commented on the transition report.
Rep. King discussed a concern regarding lending practices at financial institutions.
Darryle Rude responded to the comments.
Chair Bramble assumed the chair.
Chair Bramble asked the department of financial institutions to take a look at the business model regarding the earned wage service amendments. Darryle Rude responded.
Chair Ferry resumed the chair.
14.Cryptocurrency Regulatory Sandbox
Adam Sweet reported on the Cryptocurrency Regulatory Sandbox.
14.1 PRESENTATION: Cryptocurrency Regulatory Sandbox (Source: OLRGC)
Connor Boyack commented on the presentation.
15.Other Items/Adjourn
Chair Ferry announced that this is the final interim meeting. He asked committee members to let the chairs know of possible interim study items.
MOTION:Rep. Matthews moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-5.
Yeas - 16Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Sen. G. Davis
Rep. J. Ferry
Rep. T. Hawkes
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Matthews
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. S. Sandall
Rep. C. Snider
Rep. M. Strong
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. M. Winder
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. J. Hawkins
Sen. K. Mayne
Rep. M. Schultz
Chair Ferry adjourned the meeting at 11:17 a.m.