MINUTES OF THE
JUDICIARY INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, May 18, 2022 • 8:30 a.m. • 20 House Building


Members Present:
Sen. Todd D. Weiler, Chair
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Sen. John D. Johnson
Sen. Michael S. Kennedy
Rep. Cheryl K. Acton
Rep. Kera Birkeland
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Calvin R. Musselman
Rep. Stephanie Pitcher
Rep. Judy Weeks Rohner
Rep. V. Lowry Snow
Rep. Mark A. Wheatley

Members Absent:
Rep. Jon Hawkins, Chair
Rep. Brady Brammer
Rep. Brian S. King
Rep. Mike Schultz

Staff Present:
Jonathan Adams, Policy Analyst
Jacqueline Carlton, Associate General Counsel
Lorna Wells, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Acting Chair Lisonbee called the meeting to order at 8:40 a.m.
Chair Lisonbee explained that Agenda Item #7 will not be discussed until the next meeting.
1.Committee Business
MOTION:Rep. Snow moved to approve the minutes of the November 17, 2021 meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-7.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. K. Birkeland
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. S. Pitcher
Rep. J. Rohner
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Sen. T. Weiler
Open and Public Meetings Act training
Jonathan Adams discussed changes to the Open and Public Meetings Act in the 2022 General Legislative Session.
1b-2022 Open and Public Meetings Act Training
Required reports to the committee
Jonathan Adams gave a brief overview of the required reports due to the committee.
1c-2022 List of Required Reports to Judiciary
Jonathan Adams reminded committee members to complete the anonymous survey about OLRGC's performance by May 20, 2022.
2.Judiciary Interim Committee 2022 Study Items
Jonathan Adams presented a list of interim study items and provided an overview of the process for approving the study items.
2- Approved 2022 Judiciary Study Item List
2022 Judiciary Study Item Overview
MOTION:Rep. Musselman moved to adopt the Interim Study Item List.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. K. Birkeland
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. S. Pitcher
Rep. J. Rohner
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Sen. T. Weiler
3.Authority to Open Judiciary-Related Bill Files
MOTION:Sen. Kennedy moved to grant the chairs authority to independently open bill files on behalf of the committee.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. K. Birkeland
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. S. Pitcher
Rep. J. Rohner
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Sen. T. Weiler
4.Appellate Decisions that Call for Legislative Action
Jacqueline Carlton discussed the recent Utah Appellate Court Decisions.
4- Calls for Legislative Action
Several committee members asked questions and Jacqueline Carlton responded.
MOTION:Sen. Cullimore moved to refer the State v. Carter case to the Law Enforcement & Criminal Justice Committee.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. K. Birkeland
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. S. Pitcher
Rep. J. Rohner
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Sen. T. Weiler
MOTION:Rep. Musselman moved to include following appellate decisions that call for legislative action (CR.R. England v. Labor Commission; doTerra International v. Kruger, and Diderickson & Bruun v. State) as part of the Interim Study Items List.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. K. Birkeland
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. S. Pitcher
Rep. J. Rohner
Rep. V. Snow
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
5.Preliminary Hearings
Salt Lake Legal Defender Association
Richard Mauro, Executive Director, Salt Lake Legal Defender's Association gave an overview of the preliminary hearings statute.
5a-Preliminary hearing presentation to Judiciary comm't 5-18-22
Rep. Snow asked several questions and Richard Mauro responded.
Sen. Cullimore asked several questions and Richard Mauro responded.
Sen. Weiler commented on the discussion.
Sentencing Commission
Dan Strong, Director, Sentencing Commission gave a historical perspective of the preliminary hearings statute.
5b- Utah Sentencing Commission Preliminary Hearings
Sen. Kennedy asked about the Commission's concerns about the proposed bill and Dan Strong responded.
Statewide Association of Prosecutors and Public Attorneys of Utah
Jeff Buhman, Exectuive Director, Statewide Association of Prosecutors, and Public Attorneys of Utah discussed the preliminary hearings statute.
5c- Preliminary Hearings Presentation.Judiciary Interim Committee.20220518
Several committee members asked questions and Jeff Buhman responded.
Utah District Courts
Michael Drechsel, Assistant State Court Administrator discussed the preliminary hearings statute.
Several committee members asked questions and Michael Drechsel responded.
Public Comment
Will Carlson, Salt Lake District Attorney's Office, commented on the preliminary hearings statute.
Matthew Vanek, Public Defender, Salt Lake Legal Defender Association, commented on the preliminary hearings statute.
Steve Burton, Utah Attorney's Defense Association, commented on the public hearings statute.
Neal Hamilton commented on the preliminary hearing statute.
Heidi Nestel, Criminal Law Attorney, Utah Crime Victims Legal Clinic, commented on the public hearings statute.
Bethany Warr, attorney, Utah Crime Victims Legal Clinic commented on the preliminary hearings statute.
Matthew Barraza, Executive Director, Office of Indigent Defense Services, commented on the preliminary hearings statute.
Michael Misner, Attorney, Salt Lake Legal Defenders, commented on the preliminary hearings statute.
MOTION:Rep. Snow moved that an informal workgroup be formed to study the preliminary hearing statute and asked staff to assist in forming this group and to have a Legislator assigned as Chair and that this group would report back to this committee in the fall.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. K. Birkeland
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. S. Pitcher
Rep. J. Rohner
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Hawkins
Sen. J. Johnson
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Sen. T. Weiler
6.Justice Court Reform
Judge Paul Farr, Chair of Justice Court Reform Task Force assisted by Mike Drechsel and Cathy Dupont gave a summary of the task force report.
6a-Justice Court Reform Proposal Presentation
6b-Justice Court Reform Proposal - August 2021
Sen. Escamilla asked about the financial impacts of these recommendations. Judge Farr responded.
Rep. Acton asked how many judges are not attorneys. Judge Farr and Michael Drechsel responded.
Sen. Cullimore encouraged the chairs to put this item on a subsequent agenda.
MOTION:Rep. Pitcher moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. K. Birkeland
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. S. Pitcher
Rep. J. Rohner
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Hawkins
Sen. J. Johnson
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. Lisonbee adjourned the meeting at 11:28 a.m.