MINUTES OF THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, June 15, 2022 • 9:00 a.m. • 30 House Building


Members Present:
Sen. Keith Grover, Chair
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox, Chair
Sen. Don L. Ipson
Sen. Kathleen A. Riebe
Sen. Daniel W. Thatcher
Rep. Melissa G. Ballard
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Rep. Matthew H. Gwynn
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Marsha Judkins
Rep. Kelly B. Miles
Rep. Val L. Peterson
Rep. Angela Romero
Rep. Travis M. Seegmiller
Rep. Andrew Stoddard
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte

Members Absent:
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore

Staff Present:
John Feinauer, Managing Policy Analyst
Esther D. Chelsea-McCarty, Associate General Counsel
Jackie Rogers, Associate General Counsel
Taylor Calabrese, Administrative Assistant

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Grover called the meeting to order at 9:06 a.m.
1.Committee Business
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to approve the minutes of the May 18, 2022, meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. K. Miles
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Sen. D. Thatcher
2.First Responder Mental Health Services
2a - H.B. 23, First Responder Mental Health Service Amendments (2022 General Session)
Jess Anderson, Commissioner, Department of Public Safety, presented an update on the implementation of grant-funded programs established in 2022 General Session H.B. 23, First Responder Mental Health Services Amendments.
Jess Anderson responded to questions from the committee.
Dean Penovich, Bureau Director, and Guy Dansie, Program Manager, Bureau of Emergency Medical Services and Preparedness, presented on the Critical Incident Stress Management Team.
The committee discussed the presentation.
Dean Penovich and Guy Dansie responded to questions from the committee.
MOTION:Sen. Riebe moved to open a committee bill file to address first responder mental health services.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-2.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. V. Peterson
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. Thatcher
3.School Resource Officers
Rhett Larsen, Student School Safety Specialist, Utah State Board of Education, presented on the current landscape of the use of school resource officers.
Tyler Kotter, Chief of Investigations, Department of Public Safety, provided an update on school resource officers and their training.
Tyler Kotter and Rhett Larsen responded to questions from the committee.
The committee discussed the presentation.
4.Master Offense List
4a - Master Offense List 2022
4b - Master Offense List Report 2022
Daniel Strong, Director, Utah Sentencing Commission, presented on the Master Offense List.
Daniel Strong responded to questions from the committee and continued presenting.
Daniel Strong responded to additional questions from the committee.
5.Sentencing Guidelines
5a - Sentencing Guidelines Presentation
Daniel Strong presented on the Utah Sentencing Commission and sentencing guidelines.
Daniel Strong responded to questions from the committee and continued presenting.
Daniel Strong responded to additional questions from the committee.
Michael Drechsel, Assistant State Court Administrator, Administrative Office of the Courts, responded to questions from the committee.
Steve Burton, Defense Attorney, Utah Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, responded to questions from the committee.
6.State v. Carter
6a - State v. Carter
6b - State v. Carter Call for Legislative Action
6c - State v. Carter Judiciary Letter
Jackie Rogers, Associate General Counsel, presented on State v. Carter.
Jackie Rogers responded to questions from the committee.
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to open a committee bill file to address the concerns raised by the courts regarding State v. Carter and refer it to the Criminal Code Evaluation Task Force for further study.The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-1.
Yeas - 16Nays- 0Abs- 1
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. V. Peterson
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Sen. K. Cullimore
7.Reverse Keyword Search and Geolocation Requests
7a - H.B. 491, Law Enforcement Court Order Reporting Amendments (2022 General Session)
7b - H.B. 251, Electronic Location Amendments (2021 General Session)
Jason Groth, Deputy Legal Director, American Civil Liberties Union, and Leslie Corbly, Privacy Policy Analyst, Libertas Institute, presented on reverse keyword search and geolocation requests.
Jason Groth responded to questions from the committee.
Eric Young, Chief of Police, Ogden Police Department, and Jeff Gray, Search & Seizure Section Director, Office of the Utah Attorney General, presented a response to reverse keyword search and geolocation requests.
MOTION:Rep. Wilcox moved to open a committee bill file to increase the clarity surrounding reverse keyword search and geolocation requests. The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-2.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. V. Peterson
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Hollins
8.Other Items/Adjourn
MOTION:Rep. Romero moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-2.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Rep. V. Peterson
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. T. Seegmiller
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Hollins
Chair Grover adjourned the meeting at 11:30 a.m.