MINUTES OF THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, October 19, 2022 • 8:00 a.m. • 30 House Building


Members Present:
Sen. Keith Grover, Chair
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox, Chair
Sen. Don L. Ipson
Sen. Kathleen A. Riebe
Sen. Daniel W. Thatcher
Rep. Melissa G. Ballard
Rep. Matthew H. Gwynn
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Colin W. Jack
Rep. Marsha Judkins
Rep. Kelly B. Miles
Rep. Val L. Peterson
Rep. Angela Romero
Rep. Andrew Stoddard
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte

Members Absent:
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton

Staff Present:
John Feinauer, Managing Policy Analyst
Sarah Flanigan, Policy Analyst
Esther D. Chelsea-McCarty, Associate General Counsel
Shad Larson, Associate General Counsel
Jackie Rogers, Associate General Counsel
Taylor Calabrese, Administrative Assistant

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Wilcox called the meeting to order at 8:08 a.m.
1.Performance Audit of Healthcare in State Prisons
2a - A Performance Audit of Healthcare in State Prisons
2b - A Performance Audit of Healthcare in State Prisons Presentation
2c - CSB Audit Update Presentation
Brian Dean, Deputy Auditor General, and David Gibson, Audit Supervisor, Office of the Legislative Auditor General, presented on A Performance Audit of Healthcare in State Prisons.
Brian Dean and David Gibson responded to questions from the committee.
Brian Nielson, Executive Director, Steve Turley, Clinical Services Director, and Rachel Summers, Internal Audit Bureau Director, Utah Department of Corrections, provided an agency response to A Performance Audit of Healthcare in State Prisons.
Brian Nielson and Steve Turley responded to questions from the committee.
2.Committee Business
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to approve the minutes of the September 21, 2022, meeting. The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-4.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. V. Peterson
The following individuals provided public comment on A Performance Audit of Healthcare in State Prisons:
Wendy Parmley, resident
3.Drug Possession Penalty Amendments
3a - "Drug Possession Penalty Amendments" (2023FL0164-004)
Rep. Gay Lynn Bennion presented on 2023 General Session draft legislation, "Drug Possession Penalty Amendments".
Rep. Bennion and Will Carlson, Deputy District Attorney, Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office, responded to questions from the committee.
MOTION:Rep. Romero moved to favorably recommend "Drug Possession Penalty Amendments".The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-3.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. V. Peterson
4.Arson Amendments
5a - "Arson Amendments" (2023FL0441-003)
Rep. Gwynn presented on 2023 General Session draft legislation, "Arson Amendments".
Rep. Miles assumed the chair.
MOTION:Sen. Riebe moved to favorably recommend "Arson Amendments".The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-4.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Wilcox
5.Mental Health Support and Law Enforcement Co-response
6a - "Mental Health Support and Law Enforcement Co-response" (2023FL0140-003)
Rep. Stoddard presented on 2023 General Session draft legislation, "Mental Health Support and Law Enforcement Co-response".
Rep. Stoddard responded to questions from the committee.
The following individuals provided public comment on "Mental Health Support and Law Enforcement and Co-response":
Andrew Riggle, Public Policy Advocate, Disability Law Center of Utah
Rep. Wilcox assumed the chair.
MOTION:Rep. Miles moved to favorably recommend "Mental Health Support and Law Enforcement Co-response."The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-3.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. V. Peterson
6.Jail and Prison Deaths
8a - "Jury awards $10M to family of Utah woman fatally injured in Davis County Jail fall" (Salt Lake Tribune)
8b - CCJJ Mortality In Utah County Jails and Prisons Report
Rep. Carol Moss and Sen. Todd Weiler presented on jail and prison deaths.
Rep. Moss and Sen. Weiler responded to questions from the committee.
Tom Ross, Executive Director, Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice (CCJJ), provided input on the CCJJ Mortality In Utah County Jails and Prisons Report.
7.Weapons Possession Amendments
4a - "Weapon Possession Amendments" (2023FL0406-003)
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee presented on 2023 General Session draft legislation, "Weapon Possession Amendments".
Rep. Lisonbee responded to questions from the committee.
MOTION:Sen. Riebe moved to postpone a vote of recommendation for "Weapon Possession Amendments" and to move to the next agenda item.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Romero
Sen. D. Thatcher
8.DNA Rape Kit Testing and Unrelated Crimes
Chair Wilcox presented on DNA rape kit testing and announced a committee bill file had been opened to address the issue.
Chair Wilcox responded to questions from the committee.
Will Carlson presented additional information on DNA rape kit testing.
Chair Wilcox and Will Carlson responded to additional questions from the committee.
9.Sentencing Commission Annual Report
9a - Sentencing Commission Presentation
9b - 2023 Sentencing Guidelines Draft
9c - 2022 Collateral Consequences Guide Draft
Daniel Strong, Director, Utah Sentencing Commission, presented on the commission's 2022 annual report, new sentencing guidelines, and the collateral consequences guide.
Daniel Strong responded to questions from the committee.
10.Other Items/Adjourn
The committee discussed the next meeting.
MOTION:Sen. Riebe moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-3.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. K. Miles
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. V. Peterson
Chair Wilcox adjourned the meeting at 10:21 a.m.