MINUTES OF THE
PUBLIC EDUCATION APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE
Tuesday, October 18, 2022 • 1:15 p.m. • 110 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Lincoln Fillmore, Senate Chair
Rep. Steve Eliason, House Chair
Rep. Steve Waldrip, House Vice Chair
Sen. Ann Millner
Sen. Derrin R. Owens
Sen. Kathleen A. Riebe
Sen. Ronald M. Winterton
Rep. Joel K. Briscoe
Rep. Dan N. Johnson
Rep. Bradley G. Last
Rep. Rosemary T. Lesser
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Jefferson Moss
Rep. Susan Pulsipher
Rep. V. Lowry Snow
Rep. Robert M. Spendlove
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte

Members Absent:
Sen. Keith Grover
Sen. Jerry W. Stevenson

Staff Present:
Ben Leishman, Finance Manager
Matthew Henderson, Financial Analyst
Josh Pittman, Financial Analyst
Nancy Skidmore, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

1.1:15 p.m. Call to Order and Approve Minutes
Chair Eliason called the meeting to order at 1:22 p.m.
Approve Minutes
MOTION:Rep. Johnson moved to approve the minutes of the August 16, 2022 meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-7.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. S. Whyte
Sen. R. Winterton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. B. Last
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
Rep. S. Waldrip
2.1:20 p.m. Funding Item Follow-Up Report - 2021 General Session Items
2a. Funding Item Follow-up Report
Ben Leishman presented the Follow-Up Report.
3.1:30 p.m. Youth-in-Custody - Concurrent Enrollment Program
Rep. Lowry Snow, Nate Caplin, Dr. Julia Combs, and Dr. Gregory Prince, Utah Tech University presented Youth-in-Custody - Concurrent Enrollment Program.
Rep. Johnson commented on his appreciation for this program and the need to make sure that funding is available.
Rep. Last commented on the excellence of this program.
Sen. Riebe commented on how this programs gives incarcerated students role models that they can make connections with.
Rep. Johnson asked how many incarcerated students are graduating from high school or earning their GED. Nate Caplin responded.
Rep. Snow concluded the presentation.
MOTION:Sen. Owens moved to prioritize a session study of this agenda item. The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. B. Last
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Sen. A. Millner
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. S. Waldrip
Rep. S. Whyte
Sen. R. Winterton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
4.1:45 p.m. Public Educatin Stabilization Account: Motion on Subcommittee Recommendations to Executive Appropriations
Ben Leishman presented.
4a-Stabilization Account Recommendations
Rep. Johnson asked for clarification of funding amounts for teacher time. Ben Leishman responded.
Sen. Fillmore asked for clarification of the word "maintain" on line 1a. Ben Leishman responded.
Rep. Last suggested to replace the word "maintain" to "prioritize as funds permit".
Rep. Briscoe asked questions about the paragraph titled "Innovate". Ben Leishman responded.
Sen. Milner asked about the process used in prioritizing funds and if specific items need to be identified. Chair Eliason and Ben Leishman responded.
5.2:05 p.m. Utah Schools for the Deaf and the Blind Updates: Subcommittee Motions from the June Meeting and 2022 General Session Building Requests
5a. USDB Trust Funds and Performance Measures [USDB]
Ben Leishman, Scott Jones, Deputy Superintendent, State Board of Education, Carl Empy, Director of Finance, Utah Schools for the Deaf and the Blind, Susan Patten, Associate Superintendent of the Blind presented updates.
Sen. Riebe asked about the number of children in the PIP project and how many students are serviced in the deaf and blind school. Susan Patten responded.
6a. USIMAC Contracted Services Study [USBE]
6.2:25 p.m. Utah State Instructional Materials Access Center (USIMAC) - Contracted Services Feasibility Study
Scott Jones, Deputy Superintendent, State Board of Education, presented the Feasibility Study.
7.2:40 p.m. Equity Pupil Funding: Subcommittee Discussion on Next Steps
Ben Leishman presented the Equity Pupil Funding and led the Subcommittee Discussion.
7a. Equity Pupil Funding
Rep. Briscoe asked if the staff can give the committee a recommendation on "WPU Value Rate". Ben Leishman responded.
8a. Scale of Operations
8b. Utah Funding Study: Scale of Operations [USBE]
8.3:00 p.m. Scale of Local Operations in Small School Districts Study Coordination for General Session
Sam Urie, School Finance Director, State Board of Education, and Ben Leishman presented Small School Districts Study.
Sen. Riebe asked about the use of the word "stochastic" in the study. Sam Urie responded.
Ben Leishman and Sen. Fillmore concluded the presentation.
9.3:10 p.m. Small School District Capital Projects Fund Update
Sam Urie, School Finance Director, State Board of Education, presented updates.
9a. Small District Capital Projects [USBE]
Sen. Riebe expressed appreciation for this funding for small schools in rural communities.
Rep. Last asked about the tax levy requirement from school districts. Sam Urie responded.
10.3:25 p.m. Special Needs Opportunity Scholarship - Annual Report (53E-7-404(f))
Tami Gear, Student Support Fiscal and Data Coordinator, State Board of Education, and Leah Voorhies, Assistant Superintendent of Student Support & State Director of Special Education, State Board of Education, presented special needs scholarships.
10a. Special Needs Opportunity Scholarship Annual Report [Children First]
10b. Special Needs Opportunity Scholarship Board Report [USBE]
Sen. Fillmore asked why Canyons School District has so many students in this program. Tami Gear responded.
Rep. Waldrip asked for an explanation of numbers on CFEF Administrative Costs; based on received reports slide. Tami Gear and Kim Coleman, Children First Education Fund, responded.
Sen. Riebe asked questions about the criteria to be approved for the program. Kim Coleman and Tami Gear responded.
Rep. Briscoe asked if the committee could see the reports that were submitted from the schools.Tami Gear responded.
Rep. Waldrip asked if the 2021, 990 form, had been filed. Kim Coleman responded.
Rep. Lisonbee expressed appreciation for this program.
11.3:40 p.m. Motion: Base Budget Preparation & Recommendations to the Executive Appropriations Committee
11a. Proposed Motions: Implementation of the Base Budget and Other Recommendations [as Amended]
MOTION:House Vice Chair Waldrip moved to adopt motion #1, as amended, as reflected on the post motions handed out to the committee.The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-6.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. S. Waldrip
Rep. S. Whyte
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. B. Last
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
Sen. R. Winterton
MOTION:House Vice Chair Waldrip moved to adopt motion #3, staff direction to draft the public education base budget as proposed in the handout to the committee.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-7.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Sen. A. Millner
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. S. Waldrip
Rep. S. Whyte
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. B. Last
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
Sen. R. Winterton
12.3:45 p.m. Other Business & Adjourn
MOTION:Rep. Lesser moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-7.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Sen. A. Millner
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. V. Snow
Rep. S. Waldrip
Rep. S. Whyte
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. B. Last
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
Sen. R. Winterton
House Chair Eliason adjourned the meeting at 3:46 p.m.