MINUTES OF THE
SENATE BUSINESS AND LABOR STANDING COMMITTEE
Friday, February 10, 2023 • 2:00 p.m. • 220 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Curtis S. Bramble, Chair
Sen. Nate Blouin
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Sen. Don L. Ipson
Sen. Karen Kwan
Sen. Daniel McCay
Sen. Scott D. Sandall
Sen. Todd D. Weiler

Staff Present:
Adam J. Sweet, Policy Analyst
Nancy Skidmore, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
Acting Chair Ipson called the meeting to order at 2:14 p.m.
1.S.B. 191 Condominium and Community Association Amendments (Harper, W.)
MOTION:Sen. Sandall moved to replace S.B. 191 with 1st Substitute S.B. 191.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-4.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. Harper presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Blouin moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 191 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-4.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. T. Weiler
MOTION:Sen. Sandall moved to approve the minutes of the February 8, 2023, meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-4.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. T. Weiler
2.2nd Sub. H.B. 245 Uninsured Motorist Amendments (Abbott, N.)
MOTION:Sen. Kwan moved to amend 2nd Substitute H.B. 245 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-4.
Amendment 1
2nd Sub. H.B. 245
1 .        Page 6, Lines 162 through 164 :  Page 6, Lines 162 through 164
162         Employers' Reinsurance Fund created in Section 34A-2-702;
163                 (iv) notwithstanding Subsection 31A-1-103(3) (f) , may be reduced by health insurance
164         subrogation only after the covered person has been made whole;

2 .        Page 21, Lines 639 through 641 :  Page 21, Lines 639 through 641
639         Employers' Reinsurance Fund created in Section 34A-2-702;
640                 (iv) notwithstanding Subsection 31A-1-103(3) (f) , may be reduced by health insurance
641         subrogation only after the covered person is made whole;

Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. Abbott presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Kwan moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 245 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-4.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. T. Weiler
MOTION:Sen. Sandall moved to recess.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-4.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. T. Weiler
Acting Chair Ipson called the meeting back to order.
3.H.B. 243 Public Transit Employee Collective Bargaining Amendments (Hawkins, J.)
Rep. Hawkins presented the bill with the assistance of Tim Merrell, Assistant Attorney General, Utah Transit Authority.
Britt Miller, Vice President, Utah Teamsters 242, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Becki Reece, citizen, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Sandall moved to pass H.B. 243 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 4-1-3.
Yeas - 4Nays- 1Abs- 3
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. D. McCay
4.S.B. 184 Prescription Cost Amendments (Bramble, C.)
MOTION:Sen. Bramble moved to replace S.B. 184 with 1st Substitute S.B. 184.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-3.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. Bramble presented the bill with the assistance of Mac Haddow, Lobbyist, Rare Actions Access Project, Ashley Bowen, citizen, Jamie Monk Carter, citizen, Jen Hepworth, citizen, Dr. Timothy West, Neurologist and Kevin DeMass, Pharmacist.
Jeff Kluge, President, GBS Benefits, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jeana Hutchings, Diversifeid Insurance Group, spoke in opposition to the bill.
David Leo, CEO, WMI Mutual Insurance, WMI TPA, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Mike Sonntag, Lobbyist, Utah Health Insurance Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Josh Schreiber, President, Utah Association of Health Underwriters, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Rebecca Yates, Licensed Insurance Broker, spoke in favor the bill.
Brook Carlisle, Government Relations Director, American Cancer Society, spoke in favor of the bill.
Lynda Roe, Pharmacy Technician, spoke in favor of the bill.
Chet Loftus, Managing Director, PEHP Health and Benefits, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Chair Bramble moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 184 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-0.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 0
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. T. Weiler
Chair Bramble adjourned the meeting at 3:30 p.m.
MOTION:Sen. Bramble moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-0.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 0
Sen. N. Blouin
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. Ipson
Sen. K. Kwan
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. S. Sandall
Sen. T. Weiler