MINUTES OF THE
PUBLIC EDUCATION APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE
Tuesday, February 7, 2023 • 9:00 a.m. • 110 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Lincoln Fillmore, Senate Chair
Rep. Susan Pulsipher, House Chair
Rep. Norman K Thurston, Vice Chair
Sen. Keith Grover
Sen. David P. Hinkins
Sen. Ann Millner
Sen. Derrin R. Owens
Sen. Kathleen A. Riebe
Rep. Joel K. Briscoe
Rep. James F. Cobb
Rep. Steve Eliason
Rep. Katy Hall
Rep. Dan N. Johnson
Rep. Carol S. Moss
Rep. Karen M. Peterson
Rep. Candice B. Pierucci

Members Absent:
Sen. Jerry W. Stevenson
Rep. Jefferson Moss
Rep. Robert M. Spendlove

Staff Present:
Ben Leishman, Finance Manager
Matthew Henderson, Financial Analyst
Andrew Talleh, Financial Analyst
Nancy Skidmore, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

1.Call to Order
Chair Fillmore called the meeting to order at 9:06 a.m.
2.Approval of Minutes
MOTION:Sen. Owens moved to approve the minutes of the February 3, 2023 meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-7.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Rep. D. Johnson
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
3.Performance Measures
3. [USBE] System Performance Measures 2023
Sydnee Dickson, State Superintendent of Public Instruction, Utah State School Board and Sarah Young, Chief of Staff, Utah State Board of Education, presented Performance Measures.
Rep. Johnson asked if the teacher exit survey was used in the audit.
Sydnee Dickson responded.
Sen. Riebe asked if pulling back on school measures would impact performance measures in the future.
Sarah Young responded.
MOTION:Rep. Pulsipher moved to approve Proposal A: Legislature may approve reciprocal framework categories and domains and direct USBE to create a rule to codify performance measures. The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-3.
Yeas - 16Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Rep. D. Johnson
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
4.Utah Education Outcomes - Guest Speaker Presentation
4. [KPI] Utah K-12 productivity
Dave Trabert, Chief Executive Office, Kansas Policy Institute, presented Utah Education Outcomes.
Sen. Riebe commented that student services change from district to district. She asked for clarification of the assessment slide.
Dave Trabert responded.
Rep. Briscoe commented on the presentation
Sen. Millner asked if there has been research on what practices make a difference in elevating the performance of students.
Dave Trabert responded.
Rep. Carol Moss asked how an assessment of students that go to private schools or have a home school voucher can be done if they are no requirements for testing.
Dave Trabert responded.
Rep. Pierucci commented on her school voucher bill.
Chair Fillmore made comments and observations on the presentation.
5.Final FY23/FY24 Budget Considerations & Motions
5a. Chair Recommended Budget Priorities
Rep. Thurston commented that in looking at the co-chairs funding list, make sure to look at both the budget motions and the chart.
Chair Fillmore gave an overview of the Budget Considerations & Motions.
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to adopt the chairs list as a starting point for the rest of the discussion.The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-3.
Yeas - 16Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Rep. D. Johnson
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to to adopt the co-chairs priority list for on-going and one-time funding as the final list.The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-3.
Yeas - 16Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Rep. D. Johnson
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Rep. Eliason moved to add $498,000 to the one-time list for the Utah School of Mental Health Collaborative.The substitute motion failed with a vote of 9-7-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 7Abs- 3
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Sen. K. Riebe
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
The committee returned to the underlying motion by Rep. Thurston's after the substitute motion failed. The motion passed 16-0-3.
5b. Subcommittee Budget Motions
MOTION:Rep. Eliason moved to approve Motion 1 from the Budget Motion Sheet The motion passed with a vote of 16-0-3.
Yeas - 16Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Rep. D. Johnson
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Rep. Cobb moved to approve Motions 2 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to approve Motion 3 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Rep. Briscoe moved to approve Motion 4 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 14-1-4.
Yeas - 14Nays- 1Abs- 4
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Sen. Millner moved to approve Motion 5 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Sen. Grover moved to approve Motion 6 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Rep. Carol Moss moved to approve Motion 7 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Sen. Riebe moved to approve Motion 8 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Sen. Hinkins moved to approve Motion 9 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Sen. Owens moved to approve Motion 10 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to approve Motion 11 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Rep. Pierucci moved to approve Motion 12 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Rep. Briscoe moved to approve Motion 13 from the Budget Motion Sheet.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
MOTION:Rep. Pierucci moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-4.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Briscoe
Rep. J. Cobb
Rep. S. Eliason
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Hinkins
Sen. A. Millner
Rep. C. Moss
Sen. D. Owens
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Pulsipher
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. D. Johnson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. J. Stevenson
Chair Fillmore adjourned the meeting at 10:41 a.m.