MINUTES OF THE
REVENUE AND TAXATION INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, June 14, 2023 • 1:15 p.m. • 445 State Capitol


Members Present:
Rep. Steve Eliason, Chair
Sen. Lincoln Fillmore
Sen. Stephanie Pitcher
Sen. Chris H. Wilson
Rep. Brady Brammer
Rep. Jennifer Dailey-Provost
Rep. Joseph Elison
Rep. Marsha Judkins
Rep. Jason B. Kyle
Rep. Rosemary T. Lesser
Rep. Phil Lyman
Rep. Robert M. Spendlove
Rep. Norman K Thurston

Members Absent:
Sen. Daniel McCay, Chair
Sen. Curtis S. Bramble
Rep. Stewart E. Barlow
Rep. Jefferson Moss
Rep. Keven J. Stratton

Staff Present:
Alex R. Janak, Managing Policy Analyst
Christine R. Gilbert, Deputy General Counsel
Lorna Wells, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Rep. Brammer called the meeting to order at 1:38 p.m.
1.Committee Business
MOTION:Rep. Lesser moved to approve the minutes of the May 17, 2023 meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-7.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. P. Lyman
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. K. Stratton
2.Sales Tax Remote Sales Transaction Test Draft Legislation
Alex Janak gave a presentation with some background information about the bill and explained the bill.
2 - Remote Seller Nexus Thresholds Presentation
Rebecca Rockwell, Commissioner, Utah State Tax Commission, explained the bill and answered questions.
3.Mineral Production Tax Withholding Draft Legislation
Christine Gilbert explained the bill.
Commissioner Rockwell explained the bill and answered questions.
Committee discussion took place regarding the process of considering committee bills when they have fiscal notes.
4.Short-Term Rental Definition Durations
Commissioner Rockwell explained the issues and answered questions.
5.Property Tax Exclusive Use Exemption
Commissioner Rockwell explained the issue and answered questions.
MOTION:Rep. Judkins moved to moved to open a committee bill file regarding the property tax exclusion use exemption.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-6.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. K. Stratton
2 - Sales and Use Tax Revisions (2024FL-0526-003)
MOTION:Rep. Eliason moved to favorably recommend the draft legislation "Sales and Use Tax Revisions" as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 11-1-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 1Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. K. Stratton
3 - Mineral Production Tax Withholding Amendments (2024FL-0527-005)
MOTION:Rep. Eliason moved to moved to favorably recommend the draft Legislation "Mineral Production Tax Withholding Amendments" as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 11-1-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 1Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. K. Stratton
MOTION:Rep. Lyman moved to open a bill file changing language for the vehicle tax duration definition to match the transient room tax duration definition. The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-6.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. K. Stratton
6.Modifications to Provisions Related to the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement
Commissioner Rockwell explained the issue and answered questions.
Shane Duvall answered questions about this possible legislation.
MOTION:Rep. Eliason moved to open a committee bill to examine this issue.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-6.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. K. Stratton
7.Sunset Review: Provisions Related to the State Tax Commission
Alex Janak discussed the background of this Sunset Review.
Commissioner Rockwell discussed this Sunset Review.
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to open a committee bill file for the purpose of extending the sunset date for Section 59-1-213.1 for 10 years and repealing the provisions in Section 59-1-213.2 entirely.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-6.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. K. Stratton
8.Sunset Review: Provisions Related to the State Tax Commission's Consideration of Confidential Tax
Alex Janak discussed the background of this Sunset Review.
Commissioner Rockwell explained the issue and answered questions.
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to open a committee bill file to make the two provisions permanent.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Sen. Wilson made a substitute motion to open a committee bill file to extend the sunset date by 10 years for the two code sections.The substitute motion passed with a vote of 12-0-6.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. K. Stratton
9.Income Tax Refunds
Commissioner Rockwell explained the issue and answered questions.
MOTION:Rep. Lesser moved to open a committee bill file to address the issues as presented with regard to Income Tax Refunds.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-6.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. K. Stratton
10.Tax Commission Authority to Share Taxpayer Information with Division of Finance
Commissioner Rockwell explained the issue and answered questions.
Todd Darrington, Dispersement Supervisor, Division of Finance, explained the need for the legislation and answered questions from committee members.
Rep. Spendlove assumed the chair.
MOTION:Rep. Lesser moved to open a committee bill file to address the issue of granting authority of the Utah State Tax Commission to share limited information with the Division of Finance to support current processes.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Rep. Lyman moved to move on to the next item on the agenda.The substitute motion failed with a vote of 7-4-7.
Yeas - 7Nays- 4Abs- 7
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. R. Lesser
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Stratton
Rep. Lesser's original motion passed with a vote 9-2-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 2Abs- 7
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. R. Spendlove
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. P. Lyman
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Stratton
MOTION:Rep. Lesser moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-5.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Eliason
Rep. J. Elison
Sen. L. Fillmore
Rep. M. Judkins
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. P. Lyman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Rep. R. Spendlove
Rep. N. Thurston
Sen. C. Wilson
Rep. S. Barlow
Sen. C. Bramble
Sen. D. McCay
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Stratton