MINUTES OF THE
SOCIAL SERVICES APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE
Tuesday, October 10, 2023 • 1:00 p.m. • 30 House Building


Members Present:
Sen. Jacob L. Anderegg, Senate Chair
Rep. Raymond P. Ward, House Chair
Rep. Stephanie Gricius, Vice Chair
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Sen. John D. Johnson
Sen. Michael S. Kennedy
Sen. Daniel W. Thatcher
Rep. Kera Birkeland
Rep. Jennifer Dailey-Provost
Rep. Ken Ivory
Rep. Marsha Judkins
Rep. Trevor Lee
Rep. Rosemary T. Lesser
Rep. Anthony E. Loubet
Rep. R. Neil Walter

Members Absent:
President J. Stuart Adams
Sen. Todd D. Weiler

Staff Present:
Sean C. Faherty, Finance Officer
Russell T. Frandsen, Finance Officer
Josh Pittman, Financial Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

1.1:00 Call to Order
Chair Anderegg called the meeting back to order at 1:27 p.m.
2.1:00 Public Input on Topics on Today's Agenda
Stephanie Burdick, citizen, expressed concern about the decreasing number of people on Medicaid. She also thanked Chair Anderegg for his work as a Senator and as the chair of this committee.
3.1:10 Unfinished Items from the Morning Agenda
There were no unfinished items from the morning agenda.
4.1:10 Behaviorally Complex Youth
4-Youth with Complex Behavioral Needs SSA Presentation
Chair Anderegg welcomed David Litvack, and expressed support for the Jewish community following the terrorist attacks by Hamas.
David Litvack, Deputy Director, Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), and Abigail Acton, Director, Office of Innovation, discussed youth with complex behavioral needs.
Rep. Dailey-Provost asked if there is crossover with department experts and community stakeholders, and for the definition of professional parents. Abigail Acton and David Litvack responded.
Rep. Judkins asked several questions about policies regarding youth with complex behavioral needs. David Litvack and Abigail Acton responded.
Rep. Ward asked if there is a definition for complex behavioral needs. Abigail Acton said the department is working on creating a definition.
5.1:40 Annual Nonlapsing Report
5-DHHS Nonlapsing Report - October 2023
Sean Faherty invited committee members to fill out a general survey regarding topics for future study, motions, budget actions, and feedback for staff. Sean Faherty also presented the Annual Nonlapsing Report.
Rep. Judkins asked about funding for the Utah Sustainable Health Collaborative. Rep. Ward responded.
Rep. Judkins asked about the cost of changing signage due to the merger of the Department of Human Services and the Department of Health. Nate Winters, Deputy Director, DHHS, provided information on the cost of the merger.
6.1:55 Utah Pediatric Trauma Network
6-Utah Pediatric Trauma Network Presentation.SSA 10.10.23
Katie Russell, MD, Trauma Medical Director, Primary Children's Hospital, and Matthew Eyre, Manager of Utah Pediatric Trauma Network, discussed the program's success in helping smaller hospitals treat injuries in children.
Chair Anderegg asked who originated the program, why it isn't self-funded, and who will run the program. Katie Russell responded.
Rep. Walter commented on the benefit of the program.
Rep. Lesser asked what information would be included on the dashboard. Katie Russell and Matthew Eyre responded.
Rep. Ward asked for additional information on data collection. Katie Russell responded.
7.2:15 Accountable Base Budget - Aging and Adult Services
7b-DHHS performance Measures for Approval and Action.FINAL
7a-October PM DAAS APB Presentation.FINAL.SF
Sean Faherty introduced the Accountable Base Budget for Aging and Adult Services.
Rep. Judkins asked if the department wanted to comment on why the targets are unrealistic. Nels Holmgren, Director, Division of Aging and Adult Services, responded.
Rep. Ward asked for clarification of the charts, and Nels Holmgren responded.
MOTION:Rep. Ward moved to approve the staff recommendations on slide pages 10 through 12 for the DAAS Accountable Base Budget Review October 2023.The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-4.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. A. Loubet
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. T. Weiler
MOTION:Rep. Ward moved to approve the DHHS performance measure changes for FY 2025 on the document entitled "7b. DHHS Performance Measures for Approval and Action.FINAL" posted with today's materials as well as approving staff to prepare the 2024 Social Services Base Budget Bill with all appropriate technical changes such as dates and agency or division names as needed for all other DHHS measures included in 2023 GS bills. The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-4.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. R. Lesser
Rep. A. Loubet
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. T. Weiler
8.3:00 Options to Adjust Funding Based on Higher Smoking Rates
8-DHHS_Funding Formula for Tobacco Compliance_2023
Russell Frandsen explained options to adjust funding based on higher smoking rates.
Rep. Ward asked for clarification on the possible motion, and Russell Frandsen responded.
Chair Anderegg asked for information on intent language. Russell Frandsen responded.
9.3:10 Update on Electronic Cigarette Tax Revenue and Uses
9-Electronic Cigarette Tax Revenue and Expenditures
Russell Frandsen gave an update on Electronic Cigarette Tax Revenue and Uses.
10.3:20 Other Business
There was no other business.
11.3:40 Written Reports
11a-Equal Medicaid Reimbursement Rate for Autism - Legislative Report
Russell Frandsen discussed the written report on Equal Medicaid Reimbursement Rate for Autism.
11b-Overnight therapeutic camping
Russell Frandsen said the short answer was, "no."
Rep. Ivory thanked Chair Anderegg for his service, time, and passion as chair of the committee and as a Senator.
Sen. Escamilla also expressed appreciation on behalf of the Minority Caucus for Chair Anderegg's work.
Chair Anderegg said it has been an honor to serve with his fellow legislators and he treasured their friendships, but it was the right time to go.
MOTION:Rep. Ward moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-3.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. J. Anderegg
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. K. Ivory
Sen. J. Johnson
Rep. M. Judkins
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. R. Lesser
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. J. Adams
Rep. A. Loubet
Sen. T. Weiler
Chair Anderegg adjourned his final legislative meeting at 2:57 p.m.