MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE STANDING COMMITTEE
Wednesday, January 24, 2024 • 2:00 p.m. • 30 House Building


Members Present:
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox, Chair
Rep. Matthew H. Gwynn, Vice Chair
Rep. Melissa G. Ballard
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Rep. Katy Hall
Rep. Sahara Hayes
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Trevor Lee
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Val L. Peterson
Rep. Andrew Stoddard
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte

Staff Present:
John Feinauer, Managing Policy Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
Chair Wilcox called the meeting to order at 2:06 p.m.
1.H.B. 15 Criminal Code Recodification and Cross References (Gwynn, M.)
Rep. Gwynn presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Stoddard moved to replace H.B. 15 with 3rd Substitute H.B. 15.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-5.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Stoddard moved to pass 3rd Substitute H.B. 15 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-5.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
2.H.B. 27 Criminal Code Amendments (Gwynn, M.)
Rep. Gwynn presented the bill.
Sam Knight, criminal defense attorney, spoke in support of the bill.
Jeff Buhman, Statewide Association of Prosecutors, spoke in support of the bill.
Chris Allred, Weber County Attorney, spoke in support of the bill.
Dan Strong, Chair, Sentencing Commission and Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice (CCJJ), spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Hayes moved to replace H.B. 27 with 1st Substitute H.B. 27.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-6.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Hayes moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 27 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-6.
Amendment 1
1st Sub. H.B. 27
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251                 (3) (a) A violation of Subsection (2)(a) is a class { B } C misdemeanor.
252                 (b) { A } Except as provided in Subsection (3)(c), a violation of Subsection (2)(b) is a class { A } B misdemeanor.
        (c) A violation of Subsection (2)(b) is a class A misdemeanor if the actor committed the violation in the presence of an individual who is younger than 14 years old.        

Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Hayes moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 27 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-6.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
3.H.B. 181 Criminal Offenses Amendments (Gwynn, M.)
Rep. Gwynn presented the bill.
Dan Strong spoke to the bill.
Richard Mauro, Executive Director, Salt Lake Legal Defenders Association, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Lisonbee moved to replace H.B. 181 with 3rd Substitute H.B. 181.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-6.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Lisonbee moved to pass 3rd Substitute H.B. 181 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-6.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
4.H.B. 156 Burglary Amendments (Jack, C.)
Rep. Colin Jack presented the bill.
Mark Moffat, criminal defense attorney, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Mike Smith, Utah County Sheriff and President, Utah Sheriffs Association, spoke in support of the bill.
Jeff Buhman spoke in support of the bill.
Steve Burton, Utah Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Stoddard moved to hold H.B. 156.The motion passed with a vote of 8-2-2.
Yeas - 8Nays- 2Abs- 2
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. S. Whyte
5.H.B. 223 Airport Weapon Possession Amendments (Gricius, S.)
Rep. Stephanie Gricius presented the bill.
David Quealy, Senior City Attorney, Salt Lake City, spoke in support of the bill.
Neca Allgood, Gun Violence Prevention Center, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to replace H.B. 223 with 1st Substitute H.B. 223.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 223 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to approve the minutes of January 18, 2023.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
6.S.B. 15 Concealed Firearm Review Board Amendments (Grover, K.)
Sen. Keith Grover presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Lisonbee moved to pass S.B. 15 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-1.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 1
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Whyte
7.S.B. 23 Offender Registry Amendments (Grover, K.)
Sen. Grover presented the bill.
Will Carlson, Chief Policy Advisor, Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office, spoke to the bill.
Amanda Montague, Utah Attorney General's Office, spoke in support of the bill.
Mark Moffat spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jeff Buhman spoke to the bill.
Dan Blanchard, Executive Project Manager, Department of Corrections, spoke in support of the bill.
Richard Mauro spoke in opposition to the bill.
Adam Craig, Utah Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Shad Larson, Office of Legislative Research and Legal Council, was asked to explain some of the language of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Stoddard moved to amend S.B. 23 with Amendment #1. The motion was withdrawn.
Amendment 1
S.B. 23
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2677                 (5) The department may intervene in any matter regarding a kidnap offender or sex offender , including a criminal action, where the
2678         matter purports to affect [a person's] an individual's lawfully entered registration requirement.

MOTION:Rep. Stoddard moved to hold S.B. 23.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-1.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 1
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Whyte
8.H.B. 276 Crime Victims Reparations Amendments (Ballard, M.G.)
Rep. Ballard presented the bill with the assistance of Susan Duehlmeier, citizen, and Gary Scheller, Director, Office for Victims of Crime.
Nate Mutter, Co-chair, Law Enforcement Legislative Committee, and also speaking on behalf of the Utah Sheriffs Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Vickie Walker, Crime Victim Reparations and Assistance Board, spoke in support of the bill.
Brian Gwilliam, Lone Peak Police Department Chief and President, Chiefs of Police Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Tom Ross, Executive Director, Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Lisonbee moved to hold H.B. 276.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Rep. Ballard moved to pass H.B. 276 out favorably.The substitute motion failed with a vote of 1-11-0.
Yeas - 1Nays- 11Abs- 0
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. Lisonbee's underlying motion passed with a vote 12-0-0.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 0
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
9.H.B. 260 Controlled Substances Amendments (Dailey-Provost, J.)
Rep. Jennifer Dailey-Provost presented the bill.
Karece Thompson, Clearfield City Council, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Stoddard moved to pass H.B. 260 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-0.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 0
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
10.H.B. 211 Penalty for False Statement During Drug Arrest (Ivory, K.)
Rep. Ken Ivory presented the bill with the assistance of Edwin Meno, Sergeant, Unified Police Department.
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to replace H.B. 211 with 1st Substitute H.B. 211.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-0.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 0
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 211 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-0.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 0
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
11.H.B. 336 Department of Public Safety Amendments (Burton, J.)
Rep. Burton presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Lee moved to pass H.B. 336 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-0.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 0
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
12.H.B. 225 Unlawful Kissing of a Child or Minor (Stoddard, A.)
Rep. Stoddard presented the bill with the assistance of Rob Scott, Sergeant, Unified Police Department Special Victims Unit.
Nate Mutter spoke in support of the bill.
Will Carlson spoke in support of the bill.
Richard Mauro spoke in opposition to the bill.
Nicholeen Peck, President, Worldwide Organization for Women, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Lee moved to hold H.B. 225.The motion failed with a vote of 1-8-3.
Yeas - 1Nays- 8Abs- 3
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to amend H.B. 225 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Amendment 1
H.B. 225
1 .        Page 1, Lines 12 through 16 :  Page 1, Lines 12 through 16
12                 ▸         defines terms;
13                 ▸         provides that a mistake as to the victim's age is not a defense to the offense of { :
14         •                           } unlawfully kissing a child; { or
15         •                         unlawfully kissing a minor; }
16                 ▸         creates the offenses of unlawfully kissing a child and unlawfully kissing a minor;

2 .        Page 3, Lines 64 through 69 :  Page 3, Lines 64 through 69
64                 (c) aggravated human smuggling, Section 76-5-310.1;
65                 (d) unlawful sexual conduct with a minor, Subsection 76-5-401.2(2)(a)(ii);
66                 { (e) unlawful kissing of a minor, Section 76-5-416.4; }
67                 { (f) } (e) patronizing a prostitute, Section 76-10-1303;
68                 { (g) } (f) aggravated exploitation of prostitution, Section 76-10-1306; or
69                 { (h) } (g) sexual solicitation, Section 76-10-1313.

Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to pass H.B. 225 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. Gwynn assumed the chair.
13.H.B. 86 Public Safety Data Amendments (Wilcox, R.)
Rep. Wilcox presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to replace H.B. 86 with 2nd Substitute H.B. 86.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 86 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
MOTION:Rep. Wilcox moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Chair Gwynn adjourned the meeting at 5:06 p.m.