MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE BUSINESS AND LABOR STANDING COMMITTEE
Friday, January 26, 2024 • 2:00 p.m. • 445 State Capitol


Members Present:
Rep. A. Cory Maloy, Chair
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte, Vice Chair
Rep. Brady Brammer
Rep. Walt Brooks
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Rep. James A. Dunnigan
Rep. Jon Hawkins
Rep. Brian S. King
Rep. Ashlee Matthews
Rep. Calvin R. Musselman
Rep. Thomas W. Peterson
Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher
Rep. Norman K Thurston
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox

Members Absent:
Rep. Carl R. Albrecht
Speaker Mike Schultz

Staff Present:
Rohnin Randles, Policy Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
Chair Maloy called the meeting to order at 2:06 p.m.
MOTION:Rep. Whyte moved to approve the minutes of January 23, 2024.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. R. Wilcox
1.S.B. 32 Caregiver Compensation Amendments (Harper, W.)
Sen. Wayne Harper presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Whyte moved to pass S.B. 32 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. Whyte assumed the chair.
2.H.B. 240 Certified Nursing Assistant Amendments (Maloy, A. Cory)
Rep. Maloy presented the bill.
Bobbie Ginn, Legislative Committee Chair, Utah Assisted Living Coalition, spoke in support of the bill.
Diane Forrester-Burke, Utah Nurses Association, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. King moved to amend H.B. 240 with Amendment #2.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Amendment 2
H.B. 240
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53                 (ii) allows an individual to fulfill the supervised training requirement while working in { :
54                   (A) a nursing care facility;
55                   (B) a general acute hospital; or
56                   (C) any other } any health care facility , including a nursing care facility, a general acute hospital, and an assisted living facility, the department determines would not violate the
57         Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987, Pub. L. No. 100-203; and

Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. King moved to pass H.B. 240 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
3.H.B. 40 Division of Consumer Protection Amendments (Maloy, A. Cory)
Rep. Maloy presented the bill with the assistance of Katie Hass, Director, Division of Consumer Protection.
Renae Cowley, Utah Media Coalition, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Dunnigan moved to replace H.B. 40 with 1st Substitute H.B. 40.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Dunnigan moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 40 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. Maloy resumed the chair.
4.H.B. 285 Labor Union Amendments (Teuscher, J.)
Rep. Teuscher presented the bill with the assistance of Vinnie Vernuccio, Labor Policy Senior Fellow, Workers for Opportunity.
Rep. Brammer raised a point of order.
Rep. Thurston raised a point of order.
Cole Kelly, teacher, spoke in support of the bill.
Sara Jones, Utah Education Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Rep. King raised a point of order.
Amelia Powers Gardner, Utah County Commissioner, spoke in support of the bill.
Jack Tidrow, President, Professional Fire Fighters of Utah, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Rusty Cannon, Utah Taxpayers Association, spoke in favor of the bill
Brad Asay, Vice President, Utah AFL-CIO and President, AFT, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Mike Rapich, Colonel, Department of Public Safety, spoke in support of the bill.
Craig Greenberg, First Vice President, UPEA, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jason Chipman, Director of Legislative Affairs, Libertas Institute, spoke in support of the bill.
Michael Evans, President, Utah School Employees Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Janet Sanders, teacher, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Angel Vice, Fiscal Coordinator, AFSCME, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jenny Graviet, President, Weber Education Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Todd Losser, Executive Director, UPEA, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Steven Laude Jr., union member, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jared Diehl, corrections officers, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jerry Philpot, AFSCME, spoke in opposition to the bill.
William Myers, Vice President, IBEW, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Christina Ordonez, AFSCME, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Rita Heagren, Vice President, AFT Utah, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Bryce Hays, AFSCME, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jay Seegmiller, citizen, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Nick Godfrey, IBT, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jeff Worthington, President, Utah AFL-CIO, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Brammer moved to replace H.B. 285 with 2nd Substitute H.B. 285.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-5.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Brammer moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 285 out favorably.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to amend 2nd Substitute H.B. 285 by removing the words "each year" on line 124.The substitute motion failed with a vote of 2-10-4.
Yeas - 2Nays- 10Abs- 4
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to amend 2nd Substitute H.B. 285 with Amendment #1.The substitute motion passed with a vote of 7-5-4.
Amendment 1
2nd Sub. H.B. 285
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50                 (iii) "Labor organization" does not include { : } an organization governed by the National Labor Relations Act, 29 U.S.C. Sec. 151 et seq. or the Railroad Labor Act, 45 U.S.C. Sec. 151 et seq.
51                 { (A) an organization governed by the National Labor Relations Act, 29 U.S.C. Sec. 151
52         et seq. or the Railroad Labor Act, 45 U.S.C. Sec. 151 et seq.; or
53                   (B) an organization composed solely of public safety employees. }

2 .        Page 2, Line 56 through Page 3, Line 63 :  Page 2, Line 56 through Page 3, Line 63
56                 { (e) "Public safety employee" means a public employee who is:
  57                   (i) a law enforcement officer as defined in Section 53-13-103;
58                   (ii) a correctional officer as defined in Section 53-13-104;
59                   (iii) a dispatcher as defined in Section 53-6-102; or
60                   (iv) a firefighter. }
61                 { (f) } (e) "Third party election facilitator" means an entity that, as part of the entity's
62         operations, provides impartial election administration, including ballot preparation, tabulation,
63         and results certification.

3 .        Page 8, Lines 238 through 241 :  Page 8, Lines 238 through 241
238                 { (2) Subsection 34-32-1(2) does not apply if the public employee is a public safety
239         employee as defined in Section 34-20-15. }
240                 { [ } (2) { ] } {   (3) } Nothing in this chapter is intended to, or may be construed to, preempt any
241         requirement of federal law.

Yeas - 7Nays- 5Abs- 4
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to hold 2nd Substitute H.B. 285.The motion failed with a vote of 6-6-4.
Yeas - 6Nays- 6Abs- 4
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Brammer moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 285 out favorably as amended.
The motion passed with a vote 8-4-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 4Abs- 4
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
5.H.B. 315 Amending Governing Documents Modifications (Moss, C.)
The bill was not heard.
6.H.B. 145 Veterinary Telehealth Amendments (Gricius, S.)
Rep. Stephanie Gricius presented the bill.
Casey Hill, Utah Veterinary Medical Association, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to replace H.B. 145 with 1st Substitute H.B. 145.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-4.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Whyte moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 145 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-4.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-4.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
Chair Maloy adjourned the meeting at 4:48 p.m.