MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE STANDING COMMITTEE
Thursday, February 1, 2024 • 3:40 p.m. • 30 House Building


Members Present:
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox, Chair
Rep. Matthew H. Gwynn, Vice Chair
Rep. Melissa G. Ballard
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Rep. Katy Hall
Rep. Sahara Hayes
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Trevor Lee
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Val L. Peterson
Rep. Andrew Stoddard
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte

Staff Present:
John Feinauer, Managing Policy Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
Chair Wilcox called the meeting to order at 3:49 p.m.
MOTION:Rep. Ballard moved to approve the minutes of January 29, 2024.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
1.H.B. 156 Burglary Amendments (Jack, C.)
Rep. Colin Jack presented the bill.
Steve Burton, Executive Director, Utah Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys, spoke in support of the bill.
Jeff Buhman, Executive Director, Statewide Association of Prosecutors, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to replace H.B. 156 with 1st Substitute H.B. 156.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 156 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. Gwynn assumed the chair.
2.H.B. 369 Defensive Force Amendments (Wilcox, R.)
Rep. Wilcox presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Whyte moved to amend H.B. 369 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Amendment 1
H.B. 369
1 .        Page 2, Lines 29 through 35 :  Page 2, Lines 29 through 35
29                 (1) [A person] Except as provided in Subsection (2), an actor is justified in using force
30         against [another] an individual when and to the extent that [he] the actor reasonably believes
31         that the force is necessary to prevent or terminate the [other's] individual's unlawful entry into the actor's vehicle or unlawful entry
32         or attack upon [his] the actor's habitation { , vehicle, } or place of business or employment.
33                 (2) [; however, he] An actor is justified in [the use of] using force against the individual
34         described in Subsection (1) [which] that is intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily
35         injury to the individual only if:

Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
MOTION:Rep. Whyte moved to pass H.B. 369 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. Wilcox resumed the chair.
3.H.B. 276 Crime Victims Reparations Amendments (Ballard, M.G.)
Rep. Ballard presented the bill.
Nate Mutter, Co-chair, Law Enforcement Legislative Committee, spoke to the bill.
Tom Ross, Executive Director, Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to replace H.B. 276 with 1st Substitute H.B. 276.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 276 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
4.H.B. 102 Peace Officer Standards and Training Council Amendments (Loubet, A.)
Rep. Anthony Loubet presented the bill with the assistance of Travis Rees, Director, Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST).
Brian Gwilliam, Chief, Lone Peak Police Department and representing the Chiefs of Police Association, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to replace H.B. 102 with 1st Substitute H.B. 102.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 102 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
5.H.B. 358 Pregnant and Postpartum Inmate Amendments (Pierucci, C.)
Rep. Candace Pierucci presented the bill with the assistance of Eric Hutchings, Director of Legislative Affairs and Policy, Department of Corrections.
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to replace H.B. 358 with 1st Substitute H.B. 358.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 358 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. Gwynn assumed the chair.
6.H.B. 84 School Safety Amendments (Wilcox, R.)
Rep. Wilcox presented the bill with the assistance of Matt Pennington, State Security Chief, Department of Public Security.
Lori Alhadeff, mother of Alyssa Alhadeff, a 14-year-old who was killed in the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, spoke in support of the bill and of enacting "Alyssa's Law."
Max Schachter, father of Alex Schachter, a 14-year-old who was killed in the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, spoke of the importance of the bill.
Shauntelle Coda, Safe and Healthy Schools Coordinator, State Board of Education, spoke to the bill.
Teri McCabe, Provo School Board member, spoke to the bill.
Maryann Christensen, Executive Director, Utah Legislative Watch, spoke in support of the bill.
Brian Gwilliam spoke in support of the bill.
Andrew Riggle, Public Policy Advocate, Disability Law Center, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Clark Aposhian, Chair, Utah Shooting Sports Council, spoke in support of the bill.
Michael Smith, Utah County Sheriff and President of Utah Sheriff's Association, spoke in support of the bill.
Martin Munoz, Voices for Utah Children, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Elizabeth Klc, Director, Utah Substance Use and Mental Health Advisory Committee, spoke in support of the bill.
Corrine Johnson, President, Utah Parents United, spoke in support of the bill.
Rhett Larsen, School Safety Specialist, Utah State Board of Education, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to replace H.B. 84 with 1st Substitute H.B. 84.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 84 out favorably.
The motion passed with a vote 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
7.H.B. 378 First Responder Mental Health Services Amendments (Wilcox, R.)
Rep. Wilcox presented the bill.
Beau Mason, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Public Safety, spoke in support of the bill.
Greg Miles, Duchesne County Commissioner, spoke in support of the bill.
Clint Smith, Draper City Fire Chief and President of Utah Fire Chiefs Association, spoke to the bill..
Mark Watkins, Chief of Police, Roosevelt City, spoke in support of the bill.
Riley Pilgrim, First Vice President, Utah Fire Chiefs Association, spoke to the bill.
Maryann Christensen spoke in support of the bill.
Brian Gwilliam spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Ballard moved to replace H.B. 378 with 1st Substitute H.B. 378.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Ballard moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 378 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Wilcox moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
Chair Gwynn adjourned the meeting at 5:36 p.m.