MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE BUSINESS AND LABOR STANDING COMMITTEE
Tuesday, February 13, 2024 • 4:00 p.m. • 445 State Capitol


Members Present:
Rep. A. Cory Maloy, Chair
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte, Vice Chair
Rep. Carl R. Albrecht
Rep. Brady Brammer
Rep. Walt Brooks
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Rep. James A. Dunnigan
Rep. Jon Hawkins
Rep. Brian S. King
Rep. Ashlee Matthews
Rep. Calvin R. Musselman
Rep. Thomas W. Peterson
Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher
Rep. Norman K Thurston
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox

Members Absent:
Speaker Mike Schultz

Staff Present:
Rohnin Randles, Policy Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary

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Chair Whyte called the meeting to order at 4:12 p.m.
MOTION:Rep. King moved to approve the minutes of February 12, 2024.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. M. Schultz
1.1st Sub. H.B. 189 Contact Lens Purchase Amendments (Teuscher, J.)
Contact Lens Purchase Amendments
Rep. Teuscher presented the bill and provided a handout.
Mark Taylor, optometrist and representing Utah Optometric Association, spoke to the bill.
Craig Poulter, optometrist, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Kenyon Anderson, optometrist, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 189 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-2.
Amendment 1
1st Sub. H.B. 189
1 .        Page 2, Lines 32 through 39 :  Page 2, Lines 32 through 39
32                 (e) in the confirmation of prescription release, as described in 16 C.F.R. Sec. 315.3:
33                 (i) include a statement that there is a possibility that multiple brands of contact lenses
34         may be medically appropriate for the patient's eye and that the patient may { request to } discuss
35         with an optometrist or physician whether an alternative brand would be medically appropriate;
36         and
37                 (ii) { if the prescriber sells the brand of contact lens in the prescription, } include a
38         statement that the prescriber may directly or indirectly profit from the sale of contact lenses.
39                 (2) An optometrist or physician may not be held liable as a result of providing a

Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. M. Schultz
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 189 out favorably as amended.The motion failed with a vote of 6-8-2.
Yeas - 6Nays- 8Abs- 2
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. M. Schultz
2.H.B. 399 Insurance Department Complaint Amendments (Birkeland, K.)
Rep. Kera Birkeland presented the bill.
Mike Sonntag, American Property Casualty Insurance Association, spoke in support of the bill.
Cort Ashton, Legislative Chair, Utah Land and Title Association, spoke in support of the bill.
John Pike, State Insurance Commissioner, spoke in support of the bill.
Rachael Ortiz, President, Utah Land and Title Association, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to replace H.B. 399 with 1st Substitute H.B. 399.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-2.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. M. Schultz
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 399 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-2.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. M. Schultz
MOTION:Rep. Dunnigan moved to place 1st Substitute H.B. 399 on the Consent Calendar.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-2.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. M. Schultz
3.H.B. 425 Health Insurance Benefit Amendments (Thurston, N.)
Bill Summary
Rep. Thurston presented the bill and provided a handout.
Brian Allen, lobbyist, America's Health Insurance Plans, spoke to the bill.
Dave Davis, Utah Retail Merchants Association, spoke in support of the bill.
Frank Pignanelli, Regence BlueCross BlueShield of Utah, spoke to the bill.
Adam Jones, Executive Director, Utah Pharmacy Association, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Chair Maloy moved to replace H.B. 425 with 1st Substitute H.B. 425.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-1.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 1
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Schultz
MOTION:Chair Maloy moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 425 out favorably.
The motion passed with a vote 13-2-1.
Yeas - 13Nays- 2Abs- 1
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Schultz
4.H.B. 267 Telemedicine Amendments (Hawkins, J.)
Rep. Hawkins presented the bill with the assistance of Brian Shiozawa, physician and associate professor, University of Utah School of Medicine.
Erick Kuhni, National Association of Benefits Professionals, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Mark Wankier, Assistant Vice President, Select Health, spoke in support of the bill.
Brian Allen spoke in opposition to the bill.
Mike Sonntag, representing Utah Health Insurance Association, spoke to the bill.
Michelle McOmber, CEO, Utah Medical Association, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Matthews moved to replace H.B. 267 with 1st Substitute H.B. 267.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-2.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. M. Schultz
MOTION:Rep. Matthews moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 267 out favorably.The motion failed with a vote of 3-11-2.
Yeas - 3Nays- 11Abs- 2
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. M. Schultz
5.H.B. 463 Medicaid Funding Amendments (Brammer, B.)
H.B. 463 was not heard.
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-2.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. M. Schultz
Chair Whyte adjourned the meeting at 6:02 p.m.