MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE BUSINESS AND LABOR STANDING COMMITTEE
Thursday, February 15, 2024 • 8:00 a.m. • 445 State Capitol


Members Present:
Rep. A. Cory Maloy, Chair
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte, Vice Chair
Rep. Carl R. Albrecht
Rep. Brady Brammer
Rep. Walt Brooks
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Rep. James A. Dunnigan
Rep. Jon Hawkins
Rep. Brian S. King
Rep. Ashlee Matthews
Rep. Calvin R. Musselman
Rep. Thomas W. Peterson
Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher
Rep. Norman K Thurston

Members Absent:
Speaker Mike Schultz
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox

Staff Present:
Rohnin Randles, Policy Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
Chair Maloy called the meeting to order at 8:02 a.m.
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to approve the minutes of February 13, 2024.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
1.2nd Sub. S.B. 25 Financial Institution and Consumer Notification Amendments (Bramble, C.)
Sen. Curtis Bramble presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Whyte moved to pass 2nd Substitute S.B. 25 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Albrecht moved to place 2nd Substitute S.B. 25 on the Consent Calendar.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
2.H.B. 463 Medicaid Funding Amendments (Brammer, B.)
Rep. Brammer presented the bill.
Jennifer Brinton, pediatrician, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Paul Gibbs, citizen, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Rusty Cannon, President, Utah Taxpayers Association, spoke in support of the bill
Matthew Pearl, Rare Disease Advisory Council, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jahn Curran, citizen, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Kory Holdaway, representing Utah Public Employees Association and Home Health and Hospice Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Stephanie Burdick, citizen, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Cirian Alvarez Valle, Utah Voices for Children, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Carrie Butler, Utah Public Health Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Lee Moss, Utah Nurse Practitioners, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Nate Checketts, Deputy Director, Department of Health and Human Services, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Rick Lybbert, CEO, Mountain Land Physical Therapy, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Gabby Sanders, American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology - Utah Chapter, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Lincoln Shurtz, Accountable Care Organizations, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Musselman moved to replace H.B. 463 with 2nd Substitute H.B. 463.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-2.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Musselman moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 463 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-4-2.
Yeas - 10Nays- 4Abs- 2
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. R. Wilcox
3.H.B. 483 Construction Trade Amendments (Albrecht, C.)
Rep. Albrecht presented the bill with the assistance of Ron Mortenson, contractor.
David Hill, Utah Plumbing and Heating Contractors Association, spoke in support of the bill.
Taz Biesinger, Utah Homebuilders Association, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to amend H.B. 483 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Amendment 1
H.B. 483
1 .        Page 3, Lines 72 through 75 :  Page 3, Lines 72 through 75
72                 (h) (i) subject to Subsection 58-1-401(2) and Sections 58-55-501 and 58-55-502, a
73         person engaged in the alteration, repair, remodeling, or addition to or improvement of a
74         building with a contracted or agreed value of less than [$3,000,] { $35,000 } $9,000 , including both labor
75         and materials, and including all changes or additions to the contracted or agreed upon work;

Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Dunnigan moved to amend H.B. 483 with Amendment #4.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Amendment 4
H.B. 483
1 .        Page 3, Lines 79 through 89 :  Page 3, Lines 79 through 89
79                 (A) work in the plumbing and electrical trades on a Subsection (1)(h)(i) project within
80         any six month period of time:
81                 (I) { must } shall be performed by a licensed electrical or plumbing contractor, if the project
82         involves an electrical or plumbing system; and
83                 (II) may be performed by a licensed journeyman electrician or plumber or an individual
84         referred to in Subsection (1)(h)(ii)(A)(I), if the project involves a component of the system
85         such as a faucet, toilet, fixture, device, outlet, or electrical switch;
86                 (B) installation, repair, or replacement of a residential or commercial gas appliance or a
87         combustion system on a Subsection (1)(h)(i) project { must } shall be performed by a person who has
88         received certification under Subsection 58-55-308(2) except as otherwise provided in
89         Subsection 58-55-308(2)(d) or 58-55-308(3);

2 .        Page 4, Lines 117 through 119 :  Page 4, Lines 117 through 119
117                 (k) (i) a person engaged in minor plumbing work that is incidental, as defined by the
118         division by rule, to the { replacement or } repair of a fixture or an appliance in a residential or
119         small commercial building, or structure used for agricultural use, as defined in Section

Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to pass H.B. 483 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
4.H.B. 408 Ride-share Amendments (Ballard, M.G.)
Rep. Melissa Ballard presented the bill with the assistance of Craig Black, Chief of Police, North Salt Lake.
Harry Hartfield, Regional Public Affairs Director, Uber, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to replace H.B. 408 with 1st Substitute H.B. 408.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 408 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 7-1-8.
Amendment 1
1st Sub. H.B. 408
1 .        Page 2, Lines 40 through 54 :  Page 2, Lines 40 through 54
40                 (3) For each prearranged ride, a transportation network company shall:
41                 (a) before a passenger enters a transportation network driver's vehicle, display on the
42         transportation network company's software application a picture of the transportation network
43         driver; [and]
44                 (b) shortly after the prearranged ride is complete, transmit an electronic receipt to the
45         passenger that lists:
46                 (i) the prearranged ride's origin and destination;
47                 (ii) the prearranged ride's total time and distance; and
48                 (iii) an itemization of the total fare the passenger paid, if any[.]; and
49                 (c) allow a passenger to notify a transportation network driver if a passenger has skis, a
50         snowboard, { or } other oversize luggage { ; } , or child restraint device.
51                 { (d) provide the passenger with a link to current federal and state law relating to child
52         restraint devices; and
53                   (e) notify the passenger that an adult traveling with a child is responsible for providing
54         and installing a child restraint device when needed. }

Yeas - 7Nays- 1Abs- 8
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 408 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-1-8.
Yeas - 7Nays- 1Abs- 8
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
MOTION:Rep. Peterson moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. C. Albrecht
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. B. Brammer
Rep. W. Brooks
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Chair Maloy adjourned the meeting at 10:00 a.m.