MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE STANDING COMMITTEE
Thursday, February 22, 2024 • 4:00 p.m. • 30 House Building


Members Present:
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox, Chair
Rep. Matthew H. Gwynn, Vice Chair
Rep. Melissa G. Ballard
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Rep. Katy Hall
Rep. Sahara Hayes
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Trevor Lee
Rep. Andrew Stoddard
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte

Members Absent:
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Val L. Peterson

Staff Present:
John Feinauer, Managing Policy Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Gwynn called the meeting to order at 4:15 p.m.
MOTION:Rep. Hayes moved to approve the minutes of February 21, 2024.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Wilcox
1.H.B. 538 Protection of State Official or Employee Personal Information (Birkeland, K.)
Rep. Kera Birkeland presented the bill with the assistance of Tanner Jensen, Director, Statewide Information and Analysis Center, and Alan Fuller, State Chief Information Officer.
Rep. Wilcox assumed the chair.
Michael Judd, Salt Lake Tribune and the Media Coalition, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to replace H.B. 538 with 1st Substitute H.B. 538.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 538 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
2.H.B. 165 Federal Law Enforcement Amendments (Lee, T.)
Rep. Lee presented the bill with the assistance of Mike Smith, Utah County Sheriff and representing the Utah Sheriffs Association.
Adam Crayk, immigration lawyer, spoke to the bill.
Nicholeen Peck, citizen, spoke in support of the bill.
Jess Anderson, Commissioner, Department of Public Safety, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to replace H.B. 165 with 1st Substitute H.B. 165.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 165 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-3.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
3.2nd Sub. S.B. 167 Court Transcript Fee Amendments (Weiler, T.)
Sen. Todd Weiler presented the bill with the assistance of Vickie Larsen, President, Utah Court Recorders Association.
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to pass 2nd Substitute S.B. 167 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
4.S.B. 205 Child Sexual Abuse Prevention Amendments (Cullimore, K. A.)
Sen. Kirk Cullimore presented the bill with the assistance of Emily Bell McCormick and Mary Catherine Perry, The Policy Project. A slideshow was presented.
Slideshow
Caroline Ashton, RLC Family Foundation, spoke in support of the bill.
Rob Campbell, RLC Family Foundation, spoke in support of the bill.
Laurieann Thorpe, Executive Director, Prevent Child Abuse Utah, answered questions from the committee and spoke in support of the bill.
Adam Ashton, RLC Family Foundation, spoke in support of the bill.
Jackie Warren, citizen, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to pass S.B. 205 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-2.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
5.1st Sub. S.B. 212 Substance Use Treatment in Correctional Facilities (Plumb, J.)
Sen. Jen Plumb presented the bill.
Elizabeth Klc, Director, Utah Substance Abuse and Mental Health Advisory Council, spoke in support of the bill.
Katherine Carlson, Medical Director, Project Reality, spoke in support of the bill.
Matt Dumont, Chief Deputy, Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Hollins moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 212 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. A. Stoddard
6.H.B. 119 School Employee Firearm Possession Amendments (Jimenez, T.)
Rep. Tim Jimenez presented the bill with the assistance of Carlos Jimenez, teacher.
Nicholeen Peck spoke in support of the bill.
Brian Peterson, teacher, spoke in support of the bill.
Neca Allgood, Gun Violence Prevention Center, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Stan Holmes, retired teacher, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Clark Aposhian, Chair, Utah Shooting Sports Council, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to replace H.B. 119 with 1st Substitute H.B. 119.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 119 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Amendment 1
1st Sub. H.B. 119
1 .        Page 2, Lines 30 through 37 :  Page 2, Lines 30 through 37
30                 (1) As used in this section:
31                 (a) "Annual classroom response training" means a training for a teacher:
32                 (i) that held at least once a year and is administered, at no cost, by a county sheriff, the
33         department, or a local law enforcement agency for a teacher; and
34                 (ii) where the teacher is trained:
35                 (A) on how to defend a classroom { , including a live action practice in defending } against
36         active threats emphasizing the teacher's role in stationary defense; and
37                 (B) on the safe loading, unloading, storage, and carrying of firearms in a school setting.

Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 119 with Amendment #2.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Amendment 2
1st Sub. H.B. 119
1 .        Page 2, Lines 30 through 33 :  Page 2, Lines 30 through 33
30                 (1) As used in this section:
31                 (a) "Annual classroom response training" means a training for a teacher:
32                 (i) that held at least once a year and is administered, at no cost { , by a county sheriff, the
33         department, or a local law enforcement agency for a teacher } to a teacher, by the individual identified by the county sheriff as described in Section 53-22-103 ; and

2 .        Page 2, Lines 38 through 45 :  Page 2, Lines 38 through 45
38                 (b) "Annual firearms training" means a training that is held at least once a year and
39         that:
40                 (i) is at least four hours in length;
41                 (ii) includes practicing and demonstrating firearms proficiency at a firearms range
42         using the firearm the teacher carries for self-defense and defense of others; and
43                 (iii) is offered:
44                 (A) at no cost to a teacher, by { a county sheriff, the department, or a local law
45         enforcement agency } the individual identified by the county sheriff as described in Section 53-22-103 ;

3 .        Page 3, Line 76 through Page 4, Line 88 :  Page 3, Line 76 through Page 4, Line 88
76                 (4) (a) The state security chief shall:
77                 (i) track each teacher that participates in the program by collecting a photograph, name,
78         and contact information for each teacher;
79                 (ii) make the information described in Subsection (4)(a) readily available to each law
80         enforcement agency in the state;
81                 (iii) reimburse each teacher participating in the program up to $500 for installing a
82         biometric gun safe in the teacher's classroom or office; and
83                 (iv) provide { reasonable reimbursement } a reimbursement of up to $500 to a county sheriff { or local law enforcement
84         agency that provides a teacher with } for each teacher that is provided annual classroom response training { or } and annual firearms
85         training.
86                 (b) The state security chief shall categorize the information described in Subsection
87         (4)(a)(i) by school.
        (c) The state security chief shall discontinue providing reimbursements under Subsections (4)(a)(iii) and (iv) when any funds appropriated by the Legislature for that purpose have been depleted.
88                 (5) A school employee participating in the program:

Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Burton moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 119 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 5-3-4.
Yeas - 5Nays- 3Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
7.S.B. 186 State Commemorative Period Amendments (McCay, D.)
Rep. Dan McCay presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to pass S.B. 186 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Stoddard moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-4.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. S. Whyte
Chair Wilcox adjourned the meeting at 6:01 p.m.