MINUTES OF THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, September 18, 2024 • 8:30 a.m. • 30 House Building


Members Present:
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox, Chair
Sen. Don L. Ipson
Sen. Kathleen A. Riebe
Sen. Daniel W. Thatcher
Rep. Melissa G. Ballard
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Rep. Matthew H. Gwynn
Rep. Katy Hall
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Trevor Lee
Rep. Anthony E. Loubet
Rep. Matt MacPherson
Rep. Calvin R. Musselman
Rep. Angela Romero
Rep. Andrew Stoddard
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte

Members Absent:
Sen. Keith Grover, Chair
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore

Staff Present:
Lacey Johnson, Policy Analyst
Shad Larson, Associate General Counsel
Jackie Rogers, Associate General Counsel
Taylor Calabrese, Administrative Assistant

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Acting Chair Gwynn called the meeting to order at 8:41 a.m.
1.Committee Business
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to approve the minutes of the August 21, 2024, meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-5.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Musselman
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. R. Wilcox
2.Using Polygraphs in Domestic Violence Cases
5 - Draft Legislation "Limitations on the Use of Polygraphs" (V003)
Rep. Romero, Marlesse Jones, Victim Services Commission Director, Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice, and Kristen Zimmerman, Assistant Attorney General, Utah Attorney General's Office, presented on 2025 General Session draft legislation, "Limitations on the Use of Polygraphs."
Rep. Wilcox assumed the chair.
Rep. Romero, Marlesse Jones, and Kristin Zimmerman responded to questions from the committee.
MOTION:Rep. Ballard moved to move to the next item on the agenda.The motion passed with a vote of 11-4-3.
Yeas - 11Nays- 4Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Musselman
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. S. Whyte
Chair Wilcox announced five committee bill files that the chairs recently opened.
3.Sunset Review - Information Check Before the Private Sale of a Firearm
2 - Firearms Portal Handout (Bureau of Criminal Identification)
Jason Ricks, Director, Bureau of Criminal Identification, presented on the sunsetting of Utah Code Section 76-10-526.1, Information check before private sale of firearm.
Jason Ricks responded to questions from the committee.
MOTION:Sen. Ipson moved to open a committee bill file to remove the sunset date for Utah Code Section 76-10-526.1.The motion passed with a vote of 14-0-4.
Yeas - 14Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Musselman
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Wilcox
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. S. Whyte
4.Sexual Extortion Amendments
3 - Draft Legislation "Sexual Extortion Amendments" (V000)
Chair Wilcox and Shad Larson presented on 2025 General Session draft legislation, "Sexual Extortion Amendments."
MOTION:Sen. Riebe moved to favorably recommend "Sexual Extortion Amendments."The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-5.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. M. MacPherson
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Wilcox
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. S. Whyte
5.Organized Crime
4 - Draft Legislation "Criminal Offenses Modifications" (V017)
Lieutenant Nate Hutchinson, Commander, Salt Lake Area Gang Project, and Richard Larsen, Deputy County Attorney, Davis County Attorney's Office, presented on 2025 General Session draft legislation, "Criminal Offenses Modifications."
Lt. Nate Hutchinson and Richard Larsen responded to questions from the committee.
Shad Larson responded to questions from the committee.
The following individuals provided public comment:
Chief Brady Cottam, Taylorsville City Police Department, spoke in favor of the bill.
Richard Mauro, Executive Director, Salt Lake Legal Defender Association, spoke in opposition to parts of the bill.
Corinne Johnson, Senior Policy Advisor for Councilman Dave Alvord, spoke in favor of the bill.
Corinne Johnson responded to questions from the committee.
Brett Robinson, Senior Attorney, Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office, spoke in favor of the bill.
Steve Burton, Director, Utah Defense Attorney Association, spoke in opposition to parts of the bill.
Steve Burton responded to questions from the committee.
Pam Vickrey, Executive Director, Utah Juvenile Defender Attorneys, spoke in opposition to parts of the bill.
Josh Graves, Division Director, Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office, spoke to the bill.
6.Prostitution Offense Amendments
6 - Draft Legislation "Prostitution Offense Amendments" (V009)
6 - Prostitution Offenses Presentation (Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel)
Rep. Gwynn and Jackie Rogers presented on 2025 General Session draft legislation, "Prostitution Offenses Amendments."
Rep. Gwynn responded to questions from the committee.
7.Other Items/Adjourn
MOTION:Rep. Ballard moved to adjourn.
Chair Wilcox adjourned the meeting at 11:09 a.m.