MINUTES OF THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, October 16, 2024 • 8:30 a.m. • 30 House Building


Members Present:
Sen. Keith Grover, Chair
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox, Chair
Sen. Don L. Ipson
Sen. Kathleen A. Riebe
Sen. Daniel W. Thatcher
Rep. Melissa G. Ballard
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Rep. Matthew H. Gwynn
Rep. Katy Hall
Rep. Sandra Hollins
Rep. Trevor Lee
Rep. Anthony E. Loubet
Rep. Matt MacPherson
Rep. Calvin R. Musselman
Rep. Angela Romero
Rep. Andrew Stoddard

Members Absent:
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte

Staff Present:
Lacey Johnson, Policy Analyst
Shad Larson, Associate General Counsel
Jackie Rogers, Associate General Counsel
Taylor Calabrese, Administrative Assistant

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
Chair Grover called the meeting to order at 8:32 a.m.
1.Committee Business
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to approve the minutes of the September 18, 2024, meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-9.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 9
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
2.Using Polygraphs in Domestic Violence Cases
2 - Draft Legislation "Limitations on the Use of Polygraphs" (V004)
Rep. Romero presented on 2025 General Session draft legislation, "Limitations on the Use of Polygraphs."
MOTION:Rep. Romero moved to favorably recommend "Limitations on the Use of Polygraphs."The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-8.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Sen. K. Riebe
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
3.Prostitution Offense Amendments
3 - Draft Legislation "Prostitution Offense Amendments" (V009)
Rep. Gwynn and Jackie Rogers, Associate General Counsel, Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel, presented on 2025 General Session draft legislation, "Prostitution Offense Amendments."
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to favorably recommend "Prostitution Offense Amendments."The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-9.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 9
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Sen. K. Riebe
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
4.Criminal Code Recodification
4 - Draft Legislation "Criminal Code Recodification and Cross References" (V041)
4 - Title 76, Chapters 9 and 10 Crosswalk (Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel)
4 - Title 76, Chapters 9 and 10 Presentation (OLRGC)
Rep. Gwynn and Jackie Rogers presented on 2025 General Session draft legislation, "Criminal Code Recodification and Cross References."
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to favorably recommend "Criminal Code Recodification and Cross References."The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-9.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 9
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hollins
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Sen. K. Riebe
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
5.Private Sale of a Firearm Sunset Review Amendments
5 - Draft Legislation "Private Sale of a Firearm Sunset Review Amendments" (V002)
Shad Larson, Associate General Counsel, Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel, presented on 2025 General Session draft legislation, "Private Sale of a Firearm Sunset Review Amendments."
MOTION:Rep. Gwynn moved to favorably recommend "Private Sale of a Firearm Sunset Review Amendments."The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-7.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Musselman
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Rep. R. Wilcox
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Sen. K. Riebe
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. S. Whyte
6.Child Abuse and Torture Amendments
6 - Draft Legislation "Child Abuse and Torture Amendments" (V021)
Sen. Ipson, Toni Laskey, Division Chief, Center for Safe and Healthy Families at Primary Children's Hospital, and Eric Clarke, County Attorney, Washington County, presented on 2025 General Session draft legislation, "Child Abuse and Torture Amendments."
Toni Laskey and Eric Clarke responded to questions from the committee.
Rep. Gwynn assumed the chair.
Mark Moffat, Utah Defense Lawyers Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Ipson moved to favorably recommend "Child Abuse and Torture Amendments."The motion passed with a vote of 14-1-3.
Yeas - 14Nays- 1Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. C. Musselman
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. MacPherson
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. S. Whyte
7.Domestic Violence Enhancements
7 - Report on Domestic Violence Modifications Presentation (AG's Office)
Carl Hollan, Assistant Attorney General, Utah Attorney General's Office, and Ryan Robinson, Chief Prosecuting Attorney, West Valley City, presented on proposed additions to domestic violence enhancements.
Ryan Robinson responded to questions from the committee.
8.Other Items/Adjourn
MOTION:Rep. Hall moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 15-0-3.
Yeas - 15Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. M. Gwynn
Rep. K. Hall
Rep. S. Hollins
Sen. D. Ipson
Rep. T. Lee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Musselman
Sen. K. Riebe
Rep. A. Romero
Rep. A. Stoddard
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Wilcox
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. K. Grover
Rep. S. Whyte
Acting Chair Gwynn adjourned the meeting at 10:11 a.m.