MINUTES OF THE
JUDICIARY INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, November 20, 2024 • 8:30 a.m. • 120 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Todd D. Weiler, Chair
Rep. Jon Hawkins, Chair
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Rep. Nelson T. Abbott
Rep. Cheryl K. Acton
Rep. Kera Birkeland
Rep. Tyler Clancy
Rep. Stephanie Gricius
Rep. Brian S. King
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. A. Cory Maloy
Rep. Judy Weeks Rohner
Rep. Mark A. Wheatley

Members Absent:
Sen. John D. Johnson
Sen. Michael S. Kennedy
Rep. James Cobb

Staff Present:
Jonathan Adams, Policy Analyst
Jacqueline Carlton, Associate General Counsel
Eric N. Weeks, Managing Associate General Counsel
Naomi Garrow, Administrative Assistant

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Acting Chair Hawkins called the meeting to order at 8:39 a.m.
1.Committee Bill on Ritual Child Abuse
2 - Draft Legislation "Ritual Abuse Amendments" (V004)
Representatives Kera Birkeland and Ken Ivory presented the draft legislation.
Acting Chair Hawkins opened public comment.
Jason Randall, Lieutenant, Utah County Sheriff's Office, spoke in favor of the legislation.
Kimberli Raya Koen, advocate, spoke in favor of the legislation.
Cara Baldree, advocate, spoke in favor of the legislation.
Caleb Proulx, attorney, spoke in opposition of the legislation.
Acting Chair Hawkins closed public comment.
2.Draft Legislation on Health Insurance Modifications
3 - Draft Legislation "Health Insurance Modifications" (V001)
Rep. Birkeland and Senator Curt Bramble presented the draft legislation.
3 - Presentation (Ark Insurance)
Rebecca Yates, President, Ark Insurance Solutions, presented.
3 - Draft Legislation "Health Insurance Modifications" (V002)
Rep. Birkeland presented the amendment.
Acting Chair Hawkins opened public comment.
Kory Holdaway, Chamber West, spoke in opposition of the legislation.
Vince Masa, constituent, spoke in favor of the legislation.
Amy Biehl, Pharmacy Service Director, Select Health, spoke in opposition and answered questions from the committee.
Gabrielle, youth constituent, spoke in favor of the legislation.
Frank Pignanelli, Blue Cross Blue Shield Utah, spoke in opposition and answered questions from the committee.
Timothy West, Neurologist, Intermountain Healthcare, spoke in favor of the legislation.
Kris Hathaway, America's Health Insurance Plans, provided public comment and answered questions from the committee.
Stacey Yowen, constituent, spoke in favor of the legislation.
Chet Loftis, Managing Director, PeHP, provided comment.
Acting Chair Hawkins closed public comment.
Committee comments.
MOTION:Rep. Birkeland moved to favorably recommend 2025FL0836 "Health Insurance Modifications" (V002).
Discussion to the bill.
Rep. Birkeland's motion to favorably recommend 2025F:0836 "Health Insurance Modifications" (V002) passed with a vote 9-2-6.
Yeas - 9Nays- 2Abs- 6
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. B. King
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Cobb
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. J. Rohner
3.Committee Bill on Ritual Child Abuse
MOTION:Rep. Abbott moved to favorably recommend 2025FL0794 "Ritual Abuse Amendments" (V004).The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. J. Cobb
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. J. Rohner
Sen. Weiler resumed the chair.
4.Committee Concurrent Resolution Authorizing Sentencing Guidelines
4 - Draft Legislation "Concurrent Resolution Authorizing Adult Sentencing and Supervision Length Guidelines and Juvenile Disposition Guidelines" (V005)
Jacqueline Carlton introduced the draft legislation.
4 - Sentencing Guidelines (Utah Sentencing Commission)
Dan Strong, Director of the Sentencing Commission, presented and answered questions from the committee.
Chair Weiler opened public comment.
Mark Brown, President, Mothers Against Drunk Driving Utah, provided comment.
Ryan Robinson, Policy Director, Statewide Association of Prosecutors, provided public comment.
MOTION:Rep. Hawkins moved to favorably recommend 2025FL0867 "Concurrent Resolution Authorizing Sentencing Guidelines" (V005).The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. J. Cobb
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. J. Rohner
5.Committee Bill on Juvenile Court Procedures
5 - Draft Legislation "Juvenile Court Procedures Amendments" (V004)
Rep. Hawkins assumed the chair.
Jacqueline Carlton presented the draft legislation.
Chair Weiler continued with the presentation.
MOTION:Chair Weiler moved to favorably recommend "Juvenile Court Procedures Amendments" (V004). The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-6.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Maloy
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. J. Cobb
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Rep. J. Rohner
Sen. Weiler resumed the chair.
6.Committee Bill on Foreign Judgment Amendments
6 - Draft Legislation "Foreign Judgment Amendments" (V002)
Eric Weeks presented the draft legislation.
Committee discussion.
MOTION:Rep. Abbott moved to favorably recommend "Foreign Judgment Amendments" (V002)The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Rohner
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. J. Cobb
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
7.Committee Bill on the Administrative Procedures Act
7 - Draft Legislation "Administrative Procedures Act Amendments" (V001)
Eric Weeks presented the draft legislation.
Rep. Lisonbee spoke to the draft legislation.
MOTION:Rep. Lisonbee moved to favorably recommend "Administrative Procedures Act Amendments" (V001)The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Rohner
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. J. Cobb
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
8.Committee Business
MOTION:Rep. Hawkins moved to approve the minutes from the October 16, 2024, meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Rohner
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. J. Cobb
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
9.Other Items/Adjourn
MOTION:Rep. Gricius moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-5.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. B. King
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Rohner
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. M. Wheatley
Rep. K. Birkeland
Rep. J. Cobb
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. J. Johnson
Sen. M. Kennedy
Chair Weiler adjourned the meeting at 10:21 a.m.