MINUTES OF THE
SENATE REVENUE AND TAXATION STANDING COMMITTEE
Wednesday, January 29, 2025 • 2:00 p.m. • 210 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Daniel McCay, Chair
Sen. Brady Brammer
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Sen. Lincoln Fillmore
Sen. Wayne A. Harper
Sen. Chris H. Wilson

Staff Present:
Alex R. Janak, Managing Policy Analyst
Carter Rojecki, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair McCay called the meeting to order at 2:09 PM.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to approve the minutes of Feb. 27th, 2024.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-2.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. C. Wilson
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
1.1st Sub. H.B. 267 Public Sector Labor Union Amendments (Teuscher, J.)
Rep. Jordan Teuscher introduced the bill, including a handout.
HB267S01 Handout
Lauren Scholnick, labor and employment attorney, Utah American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO); American Federation of Teachers, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Chris Bertram, Retired Deputy Chief of Police, Unified Police Department, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Keven Green, State Director, American's For Prosperity Utah, spoke in favor of the bill
Jessica Stauffer, RN; President, CWA7765 spoke in opposition of the bill.
Jason Chipman, Director of Government Affairs, Libertas Institute, spoke in favor of the bill.
Zach Jepson, Salt Lake City Firefighter; President, Local 81 spoke in opposition of the bill.
Billy Hesterman, Utah Taxpayers, spoke in favor of the bill.
Craig Greenburg, President, Utah Public Employees Association, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Samuel Fisher, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Benjamin Jordan, union representative, American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Christy Giblon, President, Provo Education Association, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Ian Decker, Vice President, CWA7765, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Jerry Philpott, President, American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees, spoke in opposition of the bill.
John Maddux, Captain, Salt Lake City Fire Department, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Michelle Jones, President, Granite Education Association, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Joseph McBride, President, Salt Lake City Police Association, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Amelia Powers Gardner, Utah County Commissioner, spoke for Cole Kelly, Teacher; Utah State Board of Education, in favor of the bill.
Peter Kucharski, Airline Pilots Association, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Jack Tidrow, President, Professional Firefighters of Utah, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Michael Isaac, CT Technologist, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Chris Manor, Stage, Exhibition and Studio Mechanic Employees, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Kristina Pippen, Canyon School District, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Britt Miller, President, Teamsters Local 222, spoke in opposition of the bill.
Bonnie Billings, Director of Campaigns and Elections, Utah Education Association, spoke in opposition of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 267 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 4-3-0.
Yeas - 4Nays- 3Abs- 0
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. C. Wilson
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Chair McCay called the meeting to order.
2.S.B. 108 Water Safety Amendments (Plumb, J.)
Sen. Jen Plumb introduced the bill, with the assistance of Lex Hernandez-Nietling, Founder, Project Zero Drowning, including a handout.
SB 108 Handout
MOTION:Sen. Harper moved to go to the next item on the agenda.The motion passed with a vote of 6-1-0.
Yeas - 6Nays- 1Abs- 0
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. C. Wilson
Sen. D. McCay
3.S.B. 67 Local Option Sales Tax Amendments (Owens, D.R.)
Sen. Owens introduced the bill, with the assistance of Bill Hoster, Mayor, Leeds, Utah; Board Chair, Hurricane Valley Fire District and Joe Decker, Fire Chief, Hurricane Valley Fire District.
Shawn Guzman, Director, Public Affairs, City of St. George, Utah, spoke in favor of the bill.
Jordan Hess, Director, Legislative Affairs, Washington City, Utah, spoke in favor of the bill.
Ben Armstrong, President Elect, Rural Emergency Medical Services of Utah, spoke in favor of the bill.
Rep. Joseph Elison, House Floor Sponsor, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to replace S.B. 67 with 1st Substitute S.B. 67.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-2.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. C. Wilson
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 67 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-2.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. C. Wilson
4.S.B. 37 Minimum Basic Tax Rate Amendments (Fillmore, L.)
Sen. Fillmore introduced the bill.
Todd Hauber, Representative, Utah Association of School Business Officials, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Harper moved to pass S.B. 37 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-3.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. C. Wilson
5.S.J.R. 2 Proposal to Amend Utah Constitution - Statewide Initiatives (Fillmore, L.)
Sen. Fillmore introduced the resolution.
Billy Hesterman, Utah Taxpayers Association, spoke in favor of the resolution.
Te Anu Tonga, resident, spoke in favor of the resolution.
Melarie Wheat, Mormon Women For Ethical Government, spoke in opposition of the resolution.
Kael Weston, resident, spoke in opposition of the resolution.
Laurel McDaniel, resident, spoke in opposition of the resolution.
Abbie Nistler, resident, spoke in opposition of the resolution.
Matt Weed, resident, spoke in opposition of the resolution.
Helen Moser, resident, spoke in opposition of the resolution.
Dianne Budig, resident, spoke in opposition of the resolution.
Maryann Christensen, Executive Director, Utah Legislative Watch, spoke in favor of the resolution.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass S.J.R. 2 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 4-1-2.
Yeas - 4Nays- 1Abs- 2
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. C. Wilson
6.S.B. 27 Motor Vehicle Division Amendments (Harper, W.)
Sen. Harper introduced the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Harper moved to replace S.B. 27 with 1st Substitute S.B. 27.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-2.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. C. Wilson
MOTION:Sen. Harper moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 27 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-2.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. C. Wilson
7.S.B. 47 Sales and Use Tax Remittance Amendments (Harper, W.)
Sen. Harper introduced the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Harper moved to pass S.B. 47 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-2.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. C. Wilson
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-2.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. W. Harper
Sen. D. McCay
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. C. Wilson
Chair McCay adjourned the meeting at 5:31 PM.