MINUTES OF THE
SENATE JUDICIARY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE STANDING COMMITTEE
Monday, February 10, 2025 • 3:40 p.m. • 210 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Todd Weiler, Chair
Sen. Heidi Balderree
Sen. Brady Brammer
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Sen. Lincoln Fillmore
Sen. Michael K. McKell
Sen. Calvin R. Musselman
Sen. Stephanie Pitcher

Staff Present:
Lacey Johnson, Policy Analyst
Nancy Skidmore, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Weiler called the meeting to order at 3:54 p.m.
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to approve the minutes of the February 5, 2025 meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-5.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. S. Pitcher
1.1st Sub. H.B. 252 State Custody Amendments (Lisonbee, K.)
Rep. Lisonbee presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Musselman moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 252 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-1-3.
Yeas - 5Nays- 1Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. S. Pitcher
2.H.B. 74 Foreign Judgment Amendments (Auxier, T.)
Rep. Auxier presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass H.B. 74 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. S. Pitcher
3.S.B. 203 Judicial Standing Amendments (Brammer, B.)
Sen. Brammer presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to replace S.B. 203 with 1st Substitute S.B. 203.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-4.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. S. Pitcher
Steven Rosenburg, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jacey Skinner, Utah State Bar, spoke to the bill.
Malerie Wheat, Mormon Women for Ethical Government, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Katie Wright, Executive Director, Better Boundaries, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Linda Smith, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Kael Weston, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Musselman moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 203 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-2-0.
Yeas - 7Nays- 2Abs- 0
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. S. Pitcher
4.S.J.R. 5 Joint Resolution Regarding State Prisoner Placement in Juab County Correctional Facility (Owens, D.R.)
MOTION:Sen. Musselman moved to replace S.J.R. 5 with 1st Substitute S.J.R. 5.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-0.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 0
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. Owens presented the bill with the assistance of Tracy Glover, Sheriff/President, Utah Sheriffs Association.
MOTION:Sen. Musselman moved to pass 1st Substitute S.J.R. 5 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-1.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 1
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
5.1st Sub. S.B. 176 Dog Injuries Amendments (Pitcher, S.)
Sen. Pitcher presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Pitcher moved to replace 1st Substitute S.B. 176 with 2nd Substitute S.B. 176.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Mike Sontag, lobbyist, American Property and Casualty Insurance Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Pitcher moved to pass 2nd Substitute S.B. 176 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-3-1.
Yeas - 5Nays- 3Abs- 1
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. K. Cullimore
6.S.B. 180 Law Enforcement Usage of Artificial Intelligence (Pitcher, S.)
Sen. Pitcher presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Pitcher moved to replace S.B. 180 with 1st Substitute S.B. 180.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Mark Moffat, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Criminal Defense Lawyers Association, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 180 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. Pitcher assumed the chair.
7.S.B. 208 Parent-time and Custody Amendments (Weiler, T.)
Sen. Weiler presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to replace S.B. 208 with 1st Substitute S.B. 208.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Michael Drechsel, Assistant State Court Administrator, Administrative Office of the Court, spoke to the bill.
Stewart Ralphs, Executive Director, Legal Aid Society of Salt Lake, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 208 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. Weiler resumed the chair.
8.1st Sub. H.B. 66 Ritual Abuse Amendments (Ivory, K.)
Support for HB0066 - Child Ritual Abuse
Rep. Ivory presented the bill with the assistance of Cara Baldree.
Elizabeth Klc, Policy Director, Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice, spoke in favor of the bill.
Pam Boswel, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Kimberli Koen, resident, spoke in favor to the bill.
Marlesse Jones, Director, Utah Victims Services Commission, spoke in favor of the bill.
Heather Anderson, lobbyist, Unified Police Department, spoke in favor of the bill.
Caleb Proulx, resident, spoke to the bill.
Kim Stanley, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Margie Lyman, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 66 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Chair Weiler adjourned the meeting at 5:31 p.m.
NOTE: S.B. 0175 was not discussed in the meeting.