MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE BUSINESS, LABOR, AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE
Thursday, February 13, 2025 • 2:00 p.m. • 445 State Capitol


Members Present:
Rep. A. Cory Maloy, Chair
Rep. Jason B. Kyle, Vice Chair
Rep. Melissa G. Ballard
Rep. James A. Dunnigan
Rep. Ken Ivory
Rep. Ashlee Matthews
Rep. Hoang Nguyen
Rep. Thomas W. Peterson
Rep. Calvin Roberts
Rep. Jake Sawyer
Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher
Rep. Norman K Thurston
Rep. Stephen L. Whyte
Rep. Ryan D. Wilcox

Members Absent:
Rep. Jefferson S. Burton
Speaker Mike Schultz

Staff Present:
Rohnin Randles, Policy Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Maloy called the meeting to order at 2:02 p.m.
1.H.B. 440 Uniform Mortgage Modification Act (Teuscher, J.)
Rep. Teuscher presented the bill with the assistance of Jane Sternecky, general counsel, Uniform Law Commission.
MOTION:Chair Maloy moved to pass H.B. 440 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-4.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. Kyle assumed the chair.
MOTION:Rep. Wilcox moved to approve the minutes of the February 5, 2025 and February 10, 2025 meetings.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-5.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. Maloy presented the bill.
2.H.B. 301 Ambulance Provider Payment Amendments (Maloy, A. Cory)
Mike Moffitt, President, Gold Cross Ambulance, spoke in support of the bill.
Ben Armstrong, Rural EMS Directors of Utah, spoke in support of the bill.
Clint Smith, Chief, Draper City Fire Department, and President, Utah State Fire Chiefs Association, spoke in support of the bill.
Kim Frost, Public Affairs and Government Relations, BlueCross BlueShield, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to replace H.B. 301 with 2nd Substitute H.B. 301.
Darin Bushman, Director, Bureau of Emergency Services, Department of Public Safety, was invited to answer questions from the committee.
The motion passed with a vote 11-0-5.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
MOTION:Rep. Dunnigan moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 301 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-5.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
3.H.B. 278 Massage Therapy Amendments (Thurston, N.)
Rep. Thurston presented the bill to the committee.
Jeff Shumway, Director, Office of Professional Licensure Review, Department of Commerce, spoke to the bill.
Bijan Hosseini, message therapist, spoke to the bill.
Steve Barth, lobbyist, spoke in support of the bill.
Nate Mutter, Chair, Law Enforcement Legislative Committee, spoke in support of the bill.
4.H.B. 186 Wage Payment Amendments (Christofferson, K.)
Rep. Kay Christofferson presented the bill to the committee.
Rep. Maloy resumed the chair.
David Head, employment attorney, spoke in support of the bill.
Tracy Olsen, employment attorney, spoke in support of the bill.
Rep. Kyle assumed the chair.
MOTION:Rep. Ivory moved to replace H.B. 186 with 1st Substitute H.B. 186.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Ivory moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 186 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Amendment 1

1 .        Line 41 through 45 :  Line 41 through 45
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2 .        Line 48 through 50 :  Line 48 through 50
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3 .        Line 52 through 54 :  Line 52 through 54
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Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Ivory moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 186 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
5.H.B. 278 Massage Therapy Amendments (Thurston, N.)
MOTION:Rep. Wilcox moved to replace H.B. 278 with 1st Substitute H.B. 278.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Thurston moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 278 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Rep. Maloy resumed the chair.
6.H.B. 441 Franchisee Protection Act (Ivory, K.)
Rep. Ivory presented the bill with the assistance of Kelly Clayton, business owner, and Alyssa Morrison, business owner.
Melva Sine, President, Utah Restaurant Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jeff Hanscom, International Franchise Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Bob Cerincy, business owner, spoke in support of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Ballard moved to replace H.B. 441 with 1st Substitute H.B. 441.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-5.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
MOTION:Rep. Ballard moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 441 out favorably.
The motion passed with a vote 8-3-5.
Yeas - 8Nays- 3Abs- 5
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
7.S.B. 48 Behavioral Health Amendments (McKell, M.)
Sen. Michael McKell presented the bill to the committee.
Rep. Kyle assumed the chair.
Amanda Louder, life coach, spoke to the bill.
Jessica Black, Legislative Chair, Utah Mental Health Counselors Association, spoke in support of the bill.
Sara Stroup, Legislative Chair, Utah Association for Marriage and Family Therapists, spoke in support of the bill.
Rep. Maloy resumed the chair.
Alisa Stoddard, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Lara Johnson, life coach, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Heather Frazier, life coach, spoke to the bill.
Kelsey Sorenson, life coach, spoke to the bill.
Mark Steinagel, Director, Division of Professional Licensing, and Jeff Shumway were invited to answer questions from the committee.
MOTION:Rep. Matthews moved to pass S.B. 48 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
8.H.B. 279 Earned Wage Access Services Act (Maloy, A. Cory)
The bill was not heard at the request of the sponsor.
MOTION:Rep. Matthews moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. J. Dunnigan
Rep. J. Kyle
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. A. Matthews
Rep. H. Nguyen
Rep. C. Roberts
Rep. N. Thurston
Rep. R. Wilcox
Rep. M. Ballard
Rep. J. Burton
Rep. K. Ivory
Rep. T. Peterson
Rep. J. Sawyer
Rep. M. Schultz
Rep. J. Teuscher
Rep. S. Whyte
Chair Maloy adjourned the meeting at 4:48 p.m.