MINUTES OF THE
SENATE JUDICIARY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE STANDING COMMITTEE
Thursday, February 13, 2025 • 2:00 p.m. • 210 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Todd Weiler, Chair
Sen. Heidi Balderree
Sen. Brady Brammer
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Sen. Lincoln Fillmore
Sen. Calvin R. Musselman
Sen. Stephanie Pitcher

Members Absent:
Sen. Michael K. McKell

Staff Present:
Lacey Johnson, Policy Analyst
Nancy Skidmore, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Weiler called the meeting to order. at 2:13 p.m.
MOTION:Sen. Fillmore moved to approve the minutes of the February 10, 2025 meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-4.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. M. McKell
1.S.B. 183 Inmate Amendments (Pitcher, S.)
Sen. Pitcher presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Pitcher moved to pass S.B. 183 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. M. McKell
2.H.B. 82 Law Enforcement Modifications (Gwynn, M.)
Rep. Gwynn presented the bill with the assistance of Jeff Buhman, Executive Director, Statewide Association of Prosecutors.
Mark Moffat, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Criminal Defense Lawyers Association, spoke in favor of the bill.
Liz Klc, Policy Director, Utah Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass H.B. 82 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-2.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. M. McKell
3.1st Sub. H.B. 105 Criminal Code Modifications (Gwynn, M.)
Rep. Gwynn presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to move to the next agenda item.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-2.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. M. McKell
4.S.B. 199 Guardianship Amendments (Stratton, K.)
SB 199: Guardianship Amendments
List of Supports for SB 199 - Guardianship Amendments
MOTION:Sen. Fillmore moved to replace S.B. 199 with 1st Substitute S.B. 199.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-2.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. Stratton presented the bill with the assistance of Lisa Thornton, resident and Molly Smith, resident.
Nate Crippes, Public Affairs Supervising Attorney, Disability Law Center, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jason Groth, Legal Director, ACLU of Utah spoke in opposition to the bill.
Ethan Smith, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Steven Marshall, attorney, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 199 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-2.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
5.S.B. 233 Probate Amendments (Cullimore, K. A.)
Sen. Cullimore presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Cullimore moved to pass S.B. 233 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-2.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
6.S.J.R. 3 Joint Resolution Dissolving Salt Lake County Justice Court (Cullimore, K. A.)
Sen. Cullimore presented the bill.
Michael, Drexel, Assistant State Court Administrator, Administrative Office of the Court, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Cullimore moved to pass S.J.R. 3 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-1-2.
Yeas - 6Nays- 1Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
7.2nd Sub. H.B. 49 Juror Eligibility Amendments (Ballard, M.G.)
Rep. Ballard presented the bill with the assistance of Michael Drexel, Assistant State Court Administrator, Administrative Office of the Court.
Liz Klc, Policy Analyst, Utah Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Pitcher moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 49 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-2-1.
Yeas - 6Nays- 2Abs- 1
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. M. McKell
8.S.J.R. 8 Joint Resolution Amending Rules of Evidence on Admissibility of Evidence of Crimes or Other Acts (Brammer, B.)
Sen. Brammer presented the bill with the assistance of Brody Keisel, former federal judge, law professor.
Richard Morrow, Executive Director, Salt Lake Legal Defenders Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Mark Moffat, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Criminal Defense Lawyers Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Ryan McBride, Deputy County Attorney, Utah County Attorney's Office, spoke in favor of the bill.
Christopher Ballard, General Counsel, Utah County Attorney's Office and representing the Statewide Association of Prosecutors, spoke in favor of the bill.
Jeff Gray, Utah County Attorney, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Cullimore moved to pass S.J.R. 8 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-2-1.
Yeas - 6Nays- 2Abs- 1
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. M. McKell
Letter to Committee from Institute for Justice
9.1st Sub. H.B. 167 Offender Reintegration Amendments (Clancy, T.)
MOTION:Sen. Musselman moved to replace 1st Substitute H.B. 167 with 3rd Substitute H.B. 167.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Rep. Clancy presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Pitcher moved to pass 3rd Substitute H.B. 167 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-2.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. M. McKell
10.H.B. 159 Protection Order Amendments (Teuscher, J.)
HB 159 Protection Order Amendments
Rep. Teuscher presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass H.B. 159 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. M. McKell
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to place H.B. 159 on the Consent Calendar.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. M. McKell
11.2nd Sub. H.B. 197 Criminal Conduct Amendments (Defay, A.)
Rep. Defay presented the bill with the assistance of Carl Hollan, Assistant Attorney General, Utah Attorney General's Office.
Marlesse Jones, Executive Director, Victim Services Commission, spoke in favor of the bill.
Steve Burton, Defense Attorney Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 197 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
12.1st Sub. H.B. 163 Adult Probation and Parole Amendments (Burton, J.)
Sen. Brammer presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 163 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-4.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. Pitcher assumed the chair.
13.S.B. 243 Law Enforcement Quota Amendments (Weiler, T.)
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to replace S.B. 243 with 1st Substitute S.B. 243.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-4.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to amend 1st Substitute S.B. 243 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-4.
Amendment 1

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Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. Weiler presented the bill.
Jacob Sube, Chief of Police, Ogden City, spoke to the bill.
Michael Rapich, Colonel, Utah Highway Patrol, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 243 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. Weiler resumed the chair.
14.H.B. 117 Sexual Abuse Statutes of Limitation Amendments (Ivory, K.)
HB117 Sexual Abuse Statute of Limitations Amendments Priority Support - Victim Services Commission
Child Sexual Abuse Statistics - Utah Women & Leadership Project
Rep. Ivory presented the bill with the assistance of Melaine Webster resident.
Rabbi Avremi-Zippel, spoke in favor of the bill.
Cara Baldree, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Marlesse Jones, Director, Victims Services Commission speaking on behalf of the Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice, spoke in favor of the bill
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to amend H.B. 117 with Amendment #2.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Amendment 6h

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Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to move to next item on the agenda.The motion failed with a vote of 3-3-3.
Yeas - 3Nays- 3Abs- 3
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
MOTION:Sen. Balderree moved to pass H.B. 117 out favorably.The motion failed with a vote of 3-3-3.
Yeas - 3Nays- 3Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-3.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Chair Weiler adjourned the meeting at 4:55 p.m.
NOTE: S.B. 0252, H.B. 0080, H.B. 0096 were not discussed in the meeting.