MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE
Tuesday, February 18, 2025 • 8:00 a.m. • 120 Senate Building


Members Present:
Rep. Candice B. Pierucci, Chair
Rep. Michael L. Kohler, Vice Chair
Rep. Tiara Auxier
Rep. Ariel Defay
Rep. Joseph Elison
Rep. Sahara Hayes
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Tracy J. Miller
Rep. Carol S. Moss
Rep. Nicholeen P. Peck
Rep. Karen M. Peterson
Rep. Val L. Peterson
Rep. R. Neil Walter
Rep. Douglas R. Welton

Members Absent:
Rep. Matt MacPherson
Rep. Jefferson Moss

Staff Present:
Finn Andrew Rose, Policy Analyst
Tisha Gibby, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Kohler called the meeting to order at 8:08 a.m.
MOTION:Rep. Karen Peterson moved to approve the February 13, 2025 minutes.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-5.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
1.H.B. 390 Religious Expression in Higher Education (Lisonbee, K.)
Rep. Lisonbee presented the bill with the assistance of Lance Kinzer, Director of Policy and Government Relations, 1st Amendment Partnership.
Rep. Pierucci assumed the chair.
Stan Rasmussen, Sutherland Institute, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Kohler moved to amend H.B. 390 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-4.
Amendment 1

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Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
MOTION:Rep. Kohler moved to pass H.B. 390 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-4.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
2.H.B. 449 Student Athlete Amendments (Teuscher, J.)
HB 449 handout
Rep. Jordan Teuscher presented the bill with the assistance of Jason Greco, Senior Associate Athletics Director for Compliance, University of Utah.
MOTION:Rep. Kohler moved to replace H.B. 449 with 1st Substitute H.B. 449.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
MOTION:Rep. Kohler moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 449 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 6-2-8.
Yeas - 6Nays- 2Abs- 8
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
3.H.B. 396 Small School District Scale of Operations Formula (Peterson, K.)
Rep. Karen Peterson presented the bill with the assistance of Koby Willis, Superintendent, Piute County School District.
Cade Douglas, Superintendent, Sevier School District, spoke in favor of the bill.
Ben Dalton, Superintendent, Kane County School District, spoke in favor of the bill.
Ralph Squire, Superintendent, South Sanpete School District, spoke in favor of the bill.
Jennie Earl, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Peck moved to pass H.B. 396 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
4.H.B. 168 Artificial Intelligence in Education (Defay, A.)
Rep. Defay presented the bill.
Tyler James, volunteer for the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Peck moved to amend H.B. 168 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Amendment 1

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Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. D. Welton
MOTION:Rep. Peck moved to pass H.B. 168 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. D. Welton
5.H.B. 246 Statewide Online Education Program Amendments (Elison, J.)
Rep. Elison presented the bill.
Lexi Cunningham, Utah School Boards Association, and Utah School Superintendents Association, spoke in favor of the bill.
DeLaina Tonks, Mountain Heights Academy, spoke to the bill.
Royce Van Tassel, Utah Association of Public Charter Schools, spoke to the bill.
Ben Dalton, Superintendent, Kane County School District, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Walter moved to pass H.B. 246 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-3-6.
Yeas - 7Nays- 3Abs- 6
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
6.H.B. 100 Food Security Amendments (Clancy, T.)
HB100 flyer
HB100 handout
Rep. Tyler Clancy presented the bill with the assistance of Emily Bell McCormick, The Policy Project.
Alexsys Campbell, Miss Salt Lake County, spoke in favor of the bill.
Kristin Andrus, Andrus Family Foundation, spoke in favor of the bill.
Neil Rickard, Utahns Against Hunger, spoke against the bill.
Diane Livingston, Worldwide Organization for Women, spoke against the bill.
Jordyn Bristol, Miss Timpanogos, spoke in favor of the bill.
Brynn Murdock, Ogden School Foundation, spoke in favor of the bill.
Jessica Miller, Community Action Services and Food Bank, spoke in favor of the bill.
Kevin Korous, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Shaylee Miller, resident, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Defay moved to replace H.B. 100 with 1st Substitute H.B. 100.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-5.
Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
MOTION:Rep. Defay moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 100 with Amendment #2.The motion passed with a vote of 11-0-5.
Amendment 2

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Yeas - 11Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
MOTION:Rep. Defay moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 100 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 8-3-5.
Yeas - 8Nays- 3Abs- 5
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
MOTION:Rep. Hayes moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Chair Pierucci adjourned the meeting at 9:51 a.m..