MINUTES OF THE
SENATE JUDICIARY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE STANDING COMMITTEE
Friday, February 21, 2025 • 8:00 a.m. • 210 Senate Building


Members Present:
Sen. Todd Weiler, Chair
Sen. Heidi Balderree
Sen. Brady Brammer
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Sen. Lincoln Fillmore
Sen. Michael K. McKell
Sen. Calvin R. Musselman
Sen. Stephanie Pitcher

Staff Present:
Lacey Johnson, Policy Analyst
Nancy Skidmore, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Weiler called the meeting to order at 8:03 a.m.
MOTION:Sen. McKell moved to approve the minutes of the February 19, 2025 meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-5.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. S. Pitcher
1.S.B. 144 Sexual Crimes Amendments (Kwan, K.)
Sen. Kwan presented the bill with the assistance of Carl Hollan, Assistant Attorney General, Attorney General's Office.
MOTION:Sen. Musselman moved to replace S.B. 144 with 2nd Substitute S.B. 144.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-2.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. S. Pitcher
Mark Moffat, Criminal Defense Attorney, Defense Attorneys Association, spoke in opposition to bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass 2nd Substitute S.B. 144 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-2-2.
Yeas - 5Nays- 2Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. S. Pitcher
2.S.B. 297 Congregate Care Amendments (McKell, M.)
Ashley's Army
Sen. McKell presented the bill with the assistance of Amanda Choudhary, President, Primary Children's Hospital, Alan Mortenson, Attorney, Katy Silvers, mother, Finn Pool, survivor, Dean Goodridge, father, Caroline Morrison, Strategic Advocacy Lead, 11:11 Media Impact.
MOTION:Sen. McKell moved to replace S.B. 297 with 1st Substitute S.B. 297.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-2.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 2
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. Musselman assumed the chair.
Justin Levine, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Nate Crippes, Attorney, Disability Law Center, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Scott Dixon, parent, spoke in favor of the bill.
Meg Ortiz, alumni, spoke in favor of the bill.
Caden Sagendorf, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Sen. Weiler assumed the chair.
Layne Bagley, Voice Utah, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Natalie Clark, spoke in favor of the bill.
Riyka Bier, parent, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Fillmore moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 297 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-1.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 1
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. C. Musselman
3.H.B. 17 Limitations on the Use of Polygraphs (Romero, A.)
Rep. Romero presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to replace H.B. 17 with 1st Substitute H.B. 17.The motion passed with a vote of 5-1-3.
Yeas - 5Nays- 1Abs- 3
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
Jeff Buhman, Executive Director, Statewide Division of Prosecutors and Public Attorneys, spoke in favor of the bill.
Steve Burton, Director, Defense Attorney's Association, spoke to the bill.
Nate Mutter, Chair, Law Enforcement Legislative Committee, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 17 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-2-2.
Yeas - 5Nays- 2Abs- 2
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. C. Musselman
4.H.B. 127 Sexual Crime Amendments (Strong, M.A.)
Rep. Strong presented the bill with the assistance of Paula Vigil, mother of Ashley Vigil.
Glenna Gilson, grandmother of Ashley Vigil, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to pass H.B. 127 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-5.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
5.1st Sub. H.B. 87 Drug Trafficking Amendments (Gwynn, M.)
Rep. Gwynn presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Escamilla moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 87 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-4.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
6.1st Sub. H.B. 78 Criminal Offenses Amendments (Gwynn, M.)
Rep. Gwynn presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 78 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-4.
Amendment 1

1 .        Line 237 through 240 :  Line 237 through 240
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Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 78 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-5.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Sen. S. Pitcher
7.1st Sub. H.B. 105 Criminal Code Modifications (Gwynn, M.)
Rep. Gwynn presented the bill.
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 105 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 5-0-4.
Yeas - 5Nays- 0Abs- 4
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
8.H.B. 96 Fraud Amendments (Cutler, P.)
Rep. Cutler presented the bill.
Legislation Summary: HB 96, Fraud Amendments
List of Utah offenses HB 96 penalties are consistent with
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to replace H.B. 96 with 1st Substitute H.B. 96.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-5.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 96 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-5.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
MOTION:Sen. Brammer moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 4-0-5.
Yeas - 4Nays- 0Abs- 5
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. S. Pitcher
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. K. Cullimore
Sen. L. Escamilla
Sen. L. Fillmore
Sen. M. McKell
Sen. C. Musselman
Chair Weiler adjourned the meeting at 9:56 a.m.
NOTE: H.B. 0080 was not discussed in the meeting.