MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE
Monday, February 24, 2025 • 8:00 a.m. • 110 Senate Building


Members Present:
Rep. Nelson T. Abbott, Chair
Rep. Tyler Clancy, Vice Chair
Rep. Cheryl K. Acton
Rep. Tiara Auxier
Rep. Stephanie Gricius
Rep. Jon Hawkins
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Verona Mauga
Rep. Grant Amjad Miller
Rep. Jason E. Thompson

Members Absent:
Rep. Anthony E. Loubet

Staff Present:
Jonathan Adams, Policy Analyst
Reese Boardman, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Clancy called the meeting to order at 8:09 a.m.
MOTION:Rep. Hawkins moved to approve the minutes.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-3.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
1.H.B. 413 Child Custody Proceedings Amendments (Kohler, M.)
Rep. Kohler along with Jon Woodard, attorney, presented the bill.
Maryann Christensen, Director, Utah Legislative Watch, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Auxier moved to replace H.B. 413 with 1st Substitute H.B. 413.The motion passed with a vote of 7-1-3.
Yeas - 7Nays- 1Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
MOTION:Rep. Auxier moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 413 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-1-3.
Yeas - 7Nays- 1Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
2.H.B. 289 Motor Vehicle Accident Liability Amendments (Kohler, M.)
Rep. Kohler along with Bill Fahey, resident, presented the bill.
MOTION:Chair Abbott moved to hold H.B. 289.The motion passed with a vote of 6-3-2.
Yeas - 6Nays- 3Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
3.1st Sub. H.B. 364 Governmental Immunity Amendments (Christofferson, K.)
Rep. Christofferson along with Cherylyn Egner, Hansen Law, presented the bill.
Jared Tingey, Legal Director, Utah League of Cities and Towns, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Thompson moved to replace 1st Substitute H.B. 364 with 2nd Substitute H.B. 364.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-1.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 1
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. A. Loubet
MOTION:Rep. Thompson moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 364 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-1-1.
Yeas - 9Nays- 1Abs- 1
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. A. Loubet
4.H.B. 512 Judicial Retention Changes (Lisonbee, K.)
Rep. Lisonbee presented the bill.
Maryann Christensen, Director, Utah Legislative Watch, spoke in favor of the bill.
V. Lowry Snow, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Mark Morris, Bar Commissioner, Utah State Bar, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Michael Drechsel, Assistant State Court Administrator, Utah Judiciary, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Kevin Allen, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Melarie Wheat, Utah Advocacy Coordinator, Mormon Women for Ethical Government, spoke in opposition to the bill.
David Connors, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Chase Thomas, Policy Advisor, Alliance for a Better Utah, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Nat Williams, Democracy Policy Associate, Stewardship Utah, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jon Woodard, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Kael Weston, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Linda Smith, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Jordan Singer, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Susan Olson, Utah Citizen's Council, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Auxier moved to pass H.B. 512 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 7-2-2.
Yeas - 7Nays- 2Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. A. Loubet
Chair Abbott assumed the chair.
5.3rd Sub. S.B. 139 Mineral Rights Amendments (Winterton, R.)
Sen. Winterton presented the bill.
Jared Tingey, Legal Director, Utah League of Cities and Towns, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Clancy moved to amend 3rd Substitute S.B. 139 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Amendment 1

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Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. A. Loubet
MOTION:Rep. Clancy moved to pass 3rd Substitute S.B. 139 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. A. Loubet
MOTION:Rep. Clancy moved to place 3rd Substitute S.B. 139 on the Consent Calendar.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. A. Loubet
6.1st Sub. S.B. 157 Nonjudicial Adjustment Amendments (Pitcher, S.)
Sen. Pitcher presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Lisonbee moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 157 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-1.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 1
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. A. Loubet
7.2nd Sub. S.B. 177 Child Welfare Amendments (Harper, W.)
Sen. Harper presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Gricius moved to amend 2nd Substitute S.B. 177 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Amendment 1

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Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
MOTION:Rep. Gricius moved to pass 2nd Substitute S.B. 177 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
MOTION:Rep. Miller moved to place 2nd Substitute S.B. 177 on the Consent Calendar.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
MOTION:Rep. Thompson moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Chair Abbott adjourned the meeting at 10:02 a.m.
NOTE: H.B. 0384 was not discussed in the meeting.