MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE
Wednesday, February 26, 2025 • 8:00 a.m. • 110 Senate Building


Members Present:
Rep. Nelson T. Abbott, Chair
Rep. Tyler Clancy, Vice Chair
Rep. Cheryl K. Acton
Rep. Tiara Auxier
Rep. Stephanie Gricius
Rep. Jon Hawkins
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Anthony E. Loubet
Rep. Verona Mauga
Rep. Grant Amjad Miller
Rep. Jason E. Thompson

Staff Present:
Jonathan Adams, Policy Analyst
Reese Boardman, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
Chair Abbott called the meeting to order at 8:02 a.m.
MOTION:Rep. Thompson moved to approve the minutes.The motion passed with a vote of 6-0-5.
Yeas - 6Nays- 0Abs- 5
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. V. Mauga
1.H.B. 384 Child Support Requirements (Watkins, C.)
Rep. Watkins presented the bill.
David Litvack, Deputy Director, Utah Department of Human Services, spoke to the bill.
Kristine Campbell, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Martin Munoz, KIDS COUNT Director, Voices for Utah Children, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Gricius moved to hold H.B. 384.The motion passed with a vote of 9-2-0.
Yeas - 9Nays- 2Abs- 0
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
2.H.B. 359 Juvenile Justice Amendments (Peck, N.)
Rep. Peck along with Carlos Jimenez, resident, presented the bill.
Brett Peterson, Director, Utah Division of Juvenile Justice and Youth Services, spoke to the bill.
Liz Klc, Policy Director, Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Pam Vickrey, Director, Utah Juvenile Defender Attorneys, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Brett Robinson, Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office, spoke in opposition to the bill.
David Spatafore, Utah Chiefs of Police Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Martin Munoz, KIDS COUNT Director, Voices for Utah Children, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Miller moved to hold H.B. 359.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Rep. Gricius moved to replace H.B. 359 with 1st Substitute H.B. 359.The substitute motion passed with a vote of 10-0-1.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 1
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Rep. Gricius moved to amend 1st Substitute H.B. 359 with Amendment #1.The substitute motion passed with a vote of 10-0-1.
Amendment 1

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Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 1
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. K. Lisonbee
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Rep. Auxier moved to pass 1st Substitute H.B. 359 out favorably.The substitute motion failed with a vote of 2-8-1.
Yeas - 2Nays- 8Abs- 1
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. K. Lisonbee
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:Rep. Hawkins moved to hold 1st Substitute H.B. 359.The substitute motion passed with a vote of 9-1-1.
Yeas - 9Nays- 1Abs- 1
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. K. Lisonbee
3.H.B. 534 Adult Protective Services Amendments (Loubet, A.)
Rep. Loubet along with Nan Mendenhall, Director, Adult Protective Services, presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Acton moved to pass H.B. 534 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
MOTION:Rep. Gricius moved to place H.B. 534 on the Consent Calendar.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. Clancy assumed the chair.
4.1st Sub. S.B. 203 Judicial Standing Amendments (Brammer, B.)
Sen. Brammer presented the bill.
Rep. Abbott assumed the chair.
Maryann Christensen, Director, Utah Legislative Watch, spoke in favor of the bill.
Jacey Skinner, Utah State Bar Association, spoke in opposition to the bill.
Gayle Ruzicka, President, Utah Eagle Forum, spoke in favor of the bill.
Juliann Brine, resident, spoke in favor of the bill.
Herbert Ley, Vice President, Utah Stream Access Coalition, spoke to the bill.
Sean Leonard, resident, spoke in opposition to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Loubet moved to amend 1st Substitute S.B. 203 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-3.
Amendment 1

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Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
MOTION:Rep. Loubet moved to amend 1st Substitute S.B. 203 with Amendment #2.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Amendment 2

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Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
MOTION:Rep. Acton moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 203 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-2-1.
Yeas - 8Nays- 2Abs- 1
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Hawkins
5.1st Sub. S.B. 204 Right to Appeal Amendments (Brammer, B.)
Rep. Clancy assumed the chair.
Sen. Brammer presented the bill.
Jacey Skinner, Utah State Bar Association, spoke to the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Loubet moved to replace 1st Substitute S.B. 204 with 2nd Substitute S.B. 204.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
MOTION:Rep. Loubet moved to pass 2nd Substitute S.B. 204 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
MOTION:Rep. Loubet moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-2.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 2
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Rep. J. Hawkins
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Chair Clancy adjourned the meeting at 10:03 a.m.