MINUTES OF THE
HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE
Friday, February 28, 2025 • 4:00 p.m. • 120 Senate Building


Members Present:
Rep. Candice B. Pierucci, Chair
Rep. Michael L. Kohler, Vice Chair
Rep. Tiara Auxier
Rep. Ariel Defay
Rep. Joseph Elison
Rep. Sahara Hayes
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee
Rep. Matt MacPherson
Rep. Tracy J. Miller
Rep. Carol S. Moss
Rep. Nicholeen P. Peck
Rep. Karen M. Peterson
Rep. Douglas R. Welton

Members Absent:
Rep. Jefferson Moss
Rep. Val L. Peterson
Rep. R. Neil Walter

Staff Present:
Finn Andrew Rose, Policy Analyst
Tisha Gibby, Committee Secretary

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Kohler called the meeting to order at 4:57 p.m.
MOTION:Rep. Elison moved to approve the February 27, 2025 minutes.The motion passed with a vote of 7-0-9.
Yeas - 7Nays- 0Abs- 9
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
1.H.B. 473 School Digital Materials Amendments (Peck, N.)
Rep. Peck presented the bill.
Rebekah Cummings, Utah Library Association, spoke against the bill.
Brooke Stephens, Utah Moms for America, spoke in favor of the bill.
Daniel Neville-Rehbehn, resident, spoke against the bill.
Peter Bromberg, resident, spoke against the bill.
Diane Livingston, Worldwide Organization for Women, and Utah Legislative Watch, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Elison moved to replace H.B. 473 with 2nd Substitute H.B. 473.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. R. Walter
MOTION:Rep. Elison moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 473 out favorably.
Rep. Elison withdrew the motion.
MOTION:Rep. Miller moved to amend 2nd Substitute H.B. 473 with Amendment #1.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Amendment 1

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Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
MOTION:Rep. Elison moved to pass 2nd Substitute H.B. 473 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 7-3-6.
Yeas - 7Nays- 3Abs- 6
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. Pierucci assumed the chair.
2.1st Sub. S.B. 282 Higher Education Hiring Amendments (Wilson, C.)
Sen. Chris Wilson presented the bill with the assistance of Rep. Doug Fiefia.
Jeff Hunt, on behalf of Utah Media Coalition, spoke against the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Defay moved to pass 1st Substitute S.B. 282 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
3.S.B. 32 Class Size Reduction Modifications (Fillmore, L.)
Sen. Lincoln Fillmore presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. MacPherson moved to pass S.B. 32 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
4.7th Sub. S.B. 102 Public Education Reporting Amendments (Fillmore, L.)
Sen. Fillmore presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. MacPherson moved to pass 7th Substitute S.B. 102 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 10-0-6.
Yeas - 10Nays- 0Abs- 6
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
5.H.B. 395 LEA Reporting Requirements (Welton, D.)
Rep. Welton presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Miller moved to pass H.B. 395 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 8-3-5.
Yeas - 8Nays- 3Abs- 5
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
Rep. Kohler resumed the chair.
6.S.B. 39 Education Testing Amendments (Johnson, J.)
Rep. Pierucci presented the bill with the assistance of Tod Johnson, Wasatch County School District.
Molly Hart, Utah State Board of Education, spoke in favor of the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Elison moved to amend S.B. 39 with Amendment #2.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Amendment 2

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Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
MOTION:Rep. Elison moved to amend S.B. 39 with Amendment #3.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Amendment 3

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Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
MOTION:Rep. Elison moved to pass S.B. 39 out favorably as amended.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
MOTION:Rep. Pierucci moved to saunter.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
Chair Pierucci called the meeting back to order at 6:17 p.m.
7.S.B. 249 Student Integration Amendments (Cullimore, K. A.)
Sen. Kirk Cullimore presented the bill with the assistance of Susan Edwards, Canyons School District.
MOTION:Rep. Karen Peterson moved to pass S.B. 249 out favorably.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
MOTION:Rep. Auxier moved to saunter.The motion passed with a vote of 8-0-8.
Yeas - 8Nays- 0Abs- 8
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
Chair Pierucci called the meeting back to order at 6:33 p.m.
8.S.B. 264 Higher Education Certification Amendments (Escamilla, L.)
Sen. Luz Escamilla presented the bill.
MOTION:Rep. Hayes moved to pass S.B. 264 out favorably.The motion failed with a vote of 4-5-7.
Yeas - 4Nays- 5Abs- 7
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
MOTION:Rep. Defay moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 9-0-7.
Yeas - 9Nays- 0Abs- 7
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. A. Defay
Rep. S. Hayes
Rep. M. Kohler
Rep. T. Miller
Rep. N. Peck
Rep. K. Peterson
Rep. C. Pierucci
Rep. D. Welton
Rep. J. Elison
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. M. MacPherson
Rep. C. Moss
Rep. J. Moss
Rep. V. Peterson
Rep. R. Walter
Chair Pierucci adjourned the meeting at 6:48 p.m.