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MINUTES OF THE
SOCIAL SERVICES APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE
Friday,
January 31, 2025
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8:00 a.m.
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30 House Building
Members Present:
Sen. Keven J. Stratton, Senate Chair
Rep. Raymond P. Ward, House Chair
Rep. Doug Fiefia, House Vice Chair
Sen. Heidi Balderree
Sen. Jen Plumb
Sen. Daniel W. Thatcher
Sen. Todd Weiler
Rep. Kristen Chevrier
Rep. Tyler Clancy
Rep. Jennifer Dailey-Provost
Rep. Jake Fitisemanu
| Rep. Stephanie Gricius
Rep. Colin W. Jack
Rep. Nicholeen P. Peck
Members Absent:
President J. Stuart Adams
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Staff Present:
Sean C. Faherty, Finance Manager
Russell T. Frandsen, Finance Officer
Kevin Edminster, Financial Analyst
An Bradshaw, Committee Secretary
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Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.
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| 1.9:25 Department of Health and Human Services - Long-Term Services and Supports - Agency Funding Requests |
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| Chair Stratton called the meeting to order at 8:07 a.m. |
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| 3.8:00 Approval of Minutes |
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| There were no minutes for approval. |
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| 4.8:00 Public Input on Topics on Today's Agenda |
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| Julianne Ehlers, resident, urged the committee to support funding for the Public Emergency Health Program. |
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| Kate Morrison, Maxim Healthcare Services, requested funding for the Home Health and PDN Budget. |
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| Sue Olsen, resident, spoke in support of funding Baby Watch. |
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| Crystal Ghica, Director, Early Intervention Program for Southern Utah, advocated funding Baby Watch. |
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| Rep. Peck asked if care is done in the home, and Crystal Ghica responded. |
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| Katelyn Johnson, resident, spoke about the importance of Baby Watch, and encouraged funding for the program. |
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| Sen. Plumb commented on the difference Baby Watch makes in preventing expensive health problems in the future. |
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| Hillary Clark, resident, spoke in support of funding the DPSD Waitlist, noting that her son has been on the waitlist for six years. |
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| Rep. Clancy commented that Hillary Clark should be wearing a super hero cape, and asked what the financial impact would be for her family if her son were taken off the waitlist, and Hillary Clark responded. |
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| Sen. Balderee spoke about the importance of funding the DSPD Waitlist. |
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| Rep. Fiefia thanked Hillary Clark for sharing her story and asked staff what the average wait time is, and Kevin Edminster responded. |
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| Rep. Ward gave additional information on the waitlist. |
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| Sen. Weiler added information on the waitlist. |
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| Chair Stratton expressed emotional thanks to Hillary Clark and her two sons, who help care for their brother, saying they were angels ministering to an angel. |
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| Christine Humphrey, resident, urged the committee to fund DSPD Waitlist, and told the story of her grandson. |
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| 5.8:15 Department of Health and Human Services' Integrated Healthcare Services Base Budget |
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| Russell Frandsen explained the Integrated Healthcare Services Budget and motions for consideration. |
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| Rep. Peck asked for additional information on the possible motions, and Sean Faherty responded. |
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| MOTION:Rep. Peck moved to approve all CI motions not previously approved, except CI17, CI18, CI20, and CI32 on the sheet entitled "Motions for Consideration."The motion
passed
with a vote of
10-0-6.
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| Yeas -
10 | Nays-
0 | Abs-
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Sen. H. Balderree
Rep. K. Chevrier
Rep. D. Fiefia
Rep. J. Fitisemanu
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. N. Peck
Sen. J. Plumb
Sen. K. Stratton
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. T. Weiler
| | Sen. J. Adams
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. C. Jack
Sen. D. Thatcher
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| Sen. Weiler asked why a motion for reduction was being taken now, rather than on the last day the committee meets, and Sean Faherty responded. |
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| 6.8:20 Department of Health and Human Services - Non-Medicaid Behavioral Health Treatment & Crisis Response Base Budget |
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| Sean Faherty presented Non-Medicaid Behavioral Health Treatment and Crisis Response Base Budget. |
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| Brent Kelsey, Director, Office of Substance Use and Mental Health, explained why the department opposes the proposed cuts. |
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| Rep. Peck asked a funding question, and Brent Kelsey and Rep. Ward responded. |
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| Sean Faherty continued with the presentation. |
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| 7.8:35 Requests for Appropriation - Health and Human Services - Agency Only |
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| 7b. 2025 General Session One Pager - Nutrition for Vulnerable Seniors |
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| Nels Holmgren, Director, Division of Aging and Adult Services, explained the funding requests. |
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| 7c. 2025 General Session One Pager - Increase Capacity to Protect Vulnerable Adults & Seniors |
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| 8.8:50 Department of Health and Human Services' Clinical Services Base Budget |
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| Kevin Edminster introduced the Base Budget for Clinical Services. |
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| 8a. PCRH_1.31.25 SSA Presentation-licensure survey and recommendations |
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| 8b. Clinical Services Overview |
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| Marc Watterson, Director, Office of Primary Care and Rural Health, provided information on the reports. |
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| Kevin Edminster discussed budget reduction options. |
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| Taylor Kauffman, Director, Office of Budget, gave the department's response. |
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| Krisann Bacon, Director of Clinical Operations, opposed the budget cuts. |
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| Rep. Ward requested clarification on grant funding, and Taylor Kauffman responded. |
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| Rep. Peck asked several questions, and Krisann Bacon responded. |
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| Rep. Fitisemanu asked if a statute change would be required if the cuts are made, and Kevin Edminster and Taylor Kauffman responded. |
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| Kevin Edminster explained the motions for consideration. |
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| Taylor Kauffman provided additional information on the potential budget cuts. |
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| Rep. Fiefia asked for additional information on the fees, and Taylor Kauffman responded. |
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| MOTION:Rep. Fiefia moved to approve all the CC1-CC11 motions from the sheet entitled "Motions for Consideration" that have not previously been approved.The motion
passed
with a vote of
10-0-6.
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| Yeas -
10 | Nays-
0 | Abs-
6 | |
Sen. H. Balderree
Rep. K. Chevrier
Rep. D. Fiefia
Rep. J. Fitisemanu
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. N. Peck
Sen. J. Plumb
Sen. K. Stratton
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Ward
| | Sen. J. Adams
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Gricius
Sen. T. Weiler
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| 9a. DHHS_Nonlapsing Report - October 2024 |
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| Sean Faherty explained the Long-Term Services and Supports Base Budget. |
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| Rep. Peck asked for information on the movement of funds, and Taylor Kauffman responded. |
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| MOTION:Rep. Ward moved to approve the following motions from the sheet entitled "Social Services Appropriations Subcommittee - Motions for Consideration": All #CJ1 through CJ8.The motion
passed
with a vote of
9-0-7.
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| Yeas -
9 | Nays-
0 | Abs-
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Sen. H. Balderree
Rep. D. Fiefia
Rep. J. Fitisemanu
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. N. Peck
Sen. J. Plumb
Sen. K. Stratton
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Ward
| | Sen. J. Adams
Rep. K. Chevrier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Gricius
Sen. T. Weiler
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| 9.9:05 Department of Health and Human Services Long-Term Services and Supports Base Budget |
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| 10a. Combined DAAS Budget Requests Legislative Slide Deck |
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| 10ai. Combined DSPD Budget Requests Legislative Slide Deck |
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| 10aii. 2025 General Session One Pager - Mandated additional needs & youth aging out of DCFS and JJYS |
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| 10b. 2025 General Session One Pager - Services for People with Disabilities Waiting List |
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| Angie Pinna, Director, Division of Services for People with Disabilities, provided information on the DSPD waitlist, and made the request for funding items 6, 16, and 5 and the peach sheet in Funding Request - Building Blocks. |
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| Rep. Peck asked for information on the waitlist, and Angie Pinna responded. |
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| Sen. Thatcher commented on very real people on the waitlist. |
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| Chair Stratton asked how many individuals were receiving care, and Angie Pinna responded. |
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| Rep. Ward asked for more information on the funding request, and Angie Pinna responded. |
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| Rep. Fiefia asked how the department will use additional staff and if money should go to staff rather than recipients, and Angie Pinna responded. |
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| 10.9:25 Department of Health and Human Services - Long-Term Services and Supports - Agency Funding Requests |
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| Angie Pinna explained the request for appropriations. |
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| Chair Stratton asked if the division prioritizes the requests, and Angie Pinna responded. |
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| Rep. Ward requested information on the amount of funding, and Angie Pinna responded. |
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| Chair Stratton asked if the waitlist was current, and Angie Pinna responded. |
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| 10c. 2025 General Session One Pager - DSPD Competitive Integrated Employment |
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| Angie Pinna continued with the presentation, discussing Competitive Integrated Employment. |
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| Rep. Fitisemanu asked about staffing for competitive integrated employment, and Angie Pinna responded. |
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| 10e. Utah Model of Care Legislature Slidedeck - 2025 |
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| 10ei. 2025 General Session One Pager - Utah Model of Care |
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| Carrie Bambrough, Director, Division of Continuous Quality Improvement, and James Wissler, Director, Utah Health Collaborative, made the appropriation request for Utah Model of Care. |
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| 11.9:50 Report on Previous Legislative Intent Language |
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| 11a. Intent Language Follow-Up Issue Brief and Detail.2025 GS |
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| Sean Faherty explained the Report on Previous Legislative Intent Language. |
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| 12.8:30 Motions for Consideration (blue) - Subcommittee CA Motions |
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| Russell Frandsen continued with the presentation, explaining motions for consideration. |
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| MOTION:Rep. Ward moved to approve CA motions 5 through 9 from the sheet entitled "Motions for Consideration" that have not previously been approved.The motion
passed
with a vote of
10-0-6.
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| Yeas -
10 | Nays-
0 | Abs-
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Rep. K. Chevrier
Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. D. Fiefia
Rep. S. Gricius
Sen. J. Plumb
Sen. K. Stratton
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. T. Weiler
| | Sen. J. Adams
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. J. Fitisemanu
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. N. Peck
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| Sean Faherty stated that staff is available to help committee members prepare motions. |
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| No written reports were discussed. |
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| MOTION:Rep. Ward moved to adjourn.The motion
passed
with a vote of
9-0-7.
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| Yeas -
9 | Nays-
0 | Abs-
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Rep. T. Clancy
Rep. J. Dailey-Provost
Rep. D. Fiefia
Rep. S. Gricius
Sen. J. Plumb
Sen. K. Stratton
Sen. D. Thatcher
Rep. R. Ward
Sen. T. Weiler
| | Sen. J. Adams
Sen. H. Balderree
Rep. K. Chevrier
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. J. Fitisemanu
Rep. C. Jack
Rep. N. Peck
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| Chair Stratton adjourned the meeting at 10:42 a.m. |
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