MINUTES OF THE
JUDICIARY INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, November 19, 2025 • 1:15 p.m. • 20 House Building


Members Present:
Sen. Todd Weiler, Chair
Rep. Karianne Lisonbee, Chair
Sen. Heidi Balderree
Sen. Brady Brammer
Sen. Luz Escamilla
Rep. Nelson T. Abbott
Rep. Cheryl K. Acton
Rep. Tiara Auxier
Rep. Tyler Clancy
Rep. Stephanie Gricius
Rep. Anthony E. Loubet
Rep. A. Cory Maloy
Rep. Verona Mauga
Rep. Grant Amjad Miller
Rep. Jason E. Thompson

Members Absent:
Sen. Kirk A. Cullimore

Staff Present:
Jonathan Adams, Policy Analyst
Jacqueline Carlton, Senior Associate General Counsel
Paige Nelson, Associate General Counsel
Naomi Garrow, Administrative Assistant

Note: A copy of related materials and an audio recording of the meeting can be found at www.le.utah.gov.

Chair Lisonbee called the meeting to order at 1:42 p.m.
1.Committee Business
Chair Lisonbee notified the committee of the committee bill file, Child Protection Ombudsman Amendments, that was opened.
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to approve the minutes of the October 15, 2025, meeting.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-4.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Sen. T. Weiler
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. A. Loubet
2.Draft Legislation: "Adoption Amendments"
2 - "Adoption Amendments" Bill Version Comparison (Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel)
2 - Draft Legislation "Adoption Amendments" (V023) (Drafter: K. Orton)
2 - Adoption Amendments Powerpoint (Rep. Hall)
Rep. Hall presented and answered questions from the committee.
Kami Orton, Associate General Counsel, Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel, helped to answer committee questions.
Jonathan Adams, Policy Analyst, OLRGC, answered questions.
Chair Lisonbee opened public comment.
Matt Holton, Stokes Strategies, provided comment in support of the draft legislation.
Tara Romney Barber, Utah Adoption Council, provided comment in support of the draft legislation.
Chair Lisonbee closed public comment.
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to favorably recommend draft legislation "Adoption Amendments" as a committee bill.
Discussion to the motion.
Rep. Hall provided summation.
Sen. Weiler's motion to favorably recommend draft legislation "Adoption Amendments" as a committee bill.passed with a vote 13-2-1.
Yeas - 13Nays- 2Abs- 1
Rep. C. Acton
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. T. Auxier
Sen. K. Cullimore
3.Draft Legislation: "Tribal Endorsement of Utah Driver License Amendments"
3 - Draft Legislation "Tribal Endorsement of Utah Driver License Amendments" (V07) (Drafter: K. Gasser)
3 - Tribal Endorsement Brief (Rep. Clancy)
Rep. Clancy and Shaandiin Parrish, Member of the 23rd Nation Navajo Nation Tribal Council, presented and answered questions from the committee.
MOTION:Rep. Miller moved to favorably recommend draft legislation "Tribal Endorsement of Utah Driver License Amendments" as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-4.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. T. Auxier
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. J. Thompson
4.Draft Legislation: "Amendments to Interdisciplinary Parental Representation Pilot Program"
4 - Draft Legislation "Amendments to Interdisciplinary Parental Representation Pilot Program" (V04) (Drafter: K. Orton)
Sen. Harper presented.
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to favorably recommend draft legislation "Amendments to Interdisciplinary Parental Representation Pilot Program" as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 12-0-4.
Yeas - 12Nays- 0Abs- 4
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. T. Auxier
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
5.Draft Legislation: "Criminal and Juvenile Justice Changes"
5 - Draft Legislation "Criminal and Juvenile Justice Changes" (V03) (Drafter: J. Carlton)
Sen. Weiler assumed the chair.
Rep. Lisonbee presented and answered questions from the committee.
Chair Weiler opened public comment.
Pam Vickrey, Executive Director, Utah Juvenile Defender Attorneys, provided comment.
Sheriff Eric Houston, Garfield County Sheriff, provided comment.
Nate Mutter, Assistant Chief of Investigations, Attorney General's Office, provided comment.
Scott Burns, Executive Director, Utah Sheriffs' Association, provided comment.
Chair Weiler closed public comment.
Committee Discussion.
MOTION:Rep. Lisonbee moved to amend the definition of "recidivism" on lines 273 and 284 to "for an offense within 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, and 3 years."The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-3.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. T. Auxier
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
MOTION:Rep. Lisonbee moved to favorably recommend draft legislation "Criminal and Juvenile Justice Changes" as amended as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 12-1-3.
Yeas - 12Nays- 1Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. J. Thompson
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. T. Auxier
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
6.Draft Legislation: "Child Protection Ombudsman Amendments"
6 - Draft Legislation "Child Protection Ombudsman Amendments" (V05) (Drafter: P. Nelson)
Rep. Lisonbee presented and answered questions from the committee.
Donovan Bergstrom, Director, Customer Experience, Department of Health and Human Services, answered questions from the committee.
MOTION:Rep. Lisonbee moved to favorably recommend draft legislation "Child Protection Ombudsman Amendments" as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-3.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. T. Auxier
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Rep. Lisonbee resumed the chair.
7.Draft Legislation: "Concurrent Resolution Authorizing Adult Sentencing and Supervision Length Guidelines and Juvenile Disposition Guidelines"
7 - Draft Legislation "Concurrent Resolution Authorizing Adult Sentencing and Supervision Length Guidelines and Juvenile Disposition Guidelines" (V04) (Drafter: P. Nelson)
Paige Nelson, Associate General Counsel, OLRGC, presented.
Committee discussion.
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to favorably recommend draft legislation "Concurrent Resolution Authorizing Adult Sentencing and Supervision Length Guidelines and Juvenile Disposition Guidelines" as a committee resolution.
Discussion to the motion.
Sen. Weiler's motion to favorably recommend draft legislation "Concurrent Resolution Authorizing Adult Sentencing and Supervision Length Guidelines and Juvenile Disposition Guidelines" as a committee resolution.passed with a vote 13-0-3.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. T. Auxier
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
8.Draft Legislation: "Victim Rights Amendments"
8 - Draft Legislation "Victim Rights Amendments" (V06) (Drafter: J. Carlton)
8 - Victim Rights Amendments Handout (Rep. Mauga)
Rep. Mauga presented and answered questions from the committee.
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to favorably recommend "Victim Rights Amendments" as a committee bill.The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-3.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. T. Auxier
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
9.Other Items/Adjourn
MOTION:Sen. Weiler moved to adjourn.The motion passed with a vote of 13-0-3.
Yeas - 13Nays- 0Abs- 3
Rep. N. Abbott
Rep. C. Acton
Sen. H. Balderree
Sen. B. Brammer
Rep. T. Clancy
Sen. L. Escamilla
Rep. K. Lisonbee
Rep. A. Loubet
Rep. A. Maloy
Rep. V. Mauga
Rep. G. Miller
Rep. J. Thompson
Sen. T. Weiler
Rep. T. Auxier
Sen. K. Cullimore
Rep. S. Gricius
Chair Lisonbee adjourned the meeting at 3:34 p.m.