Information Technology Commission
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY COMMISSION
September 25, 1997 - 1:30 p.m.- Room 403, State Capitol
Sen. David H. Steele, Chair
Rep. Blake D. Chard, Chair
Sen. Scott N. Howell
Rep. Martin Stephens
Mr. Cliff L. Ames
Mr. Gerald R. Capps
Mr. Peter R. Genereaux
Ms. Nancy Gibbs
Mr. Randall G. Harmsen
Mr. Robert W. Hood
Judge Norman H. Jackson
Ms. Eileen B. Longsworth
Commissioner Stephen F. Mecham
Mr. Leon Miller
Dr. Mike Petersen
Mr. Gordon A. Peterson
Mr. Jerry P. Peterson
Members Absent:
Sen. Craig L. Taylor
Rep. Brent H. Goodfellow
Mr. David A. Packer
Staff Present:
Mr. Richard North,
Executive Director
Ms. Tani Pack Downing,
Associate General Counsel
Ms. Junie Anderson,
Committee Secretary
Note: A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.
1. Call to Order _ Chair Chard called the meeting to order at 1:40 p.m.
MOTION: Cliff Ames moved to approve the minutes of the August 27, 1997 meeting. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Howell, Rep. Stephens, Commissioner Mecham, Dr. Petersen, and Mr. J. Peterson were absent for the vote.
2. Data Privacy In Communications _ Katie Kendall, Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel, distributed a handout titled, "Telecommunications Privacy Presentation." She discussed the information as outlined in the handout.
3. How Data Privacy Is Protected In Government _ Tani Pack Downing, Associate General Counsel, Information Technology Commission, distributed a memorandum titled, "Private Study Information." She also distributed a letter addressed to The Honorable John McCain from interested groups concerned about the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) report, and a document titled, "EPIC Online Guide to 105th Congress Privacy and Cyber-Liberties Bills," provided by the Electronic Privacy Information Center.
Mr. Hood was concerned about encryption and that, possibly, some experts in the field might sell information to criminals. Ms. Downing explained that a federal judge in
San Francisco recently declared the existing cryptography regulation unconstitutional because it
violated free speech. Ms. Downing advised the Commission
that FBI Director, Louis Freeh, told the Senate Subcommittee on September 3, that the FBI preferred to have legislation containing a
provision which requires the manufacturers of the encryption products to include a feature giving
law enforcement immediate translation of identification.
4. Review of Potential Privacy Legislation _
Tani Pack Downing, Associate General Counsel, Information Technology Commission,
spoke about privacy issues at the federal level. She said the Social Security Administration recently reopened a web site and explained how
benefits can be obtained using the web site, but it may not 100 percent secure. She said the FTC
is holding workshops on privacy and a group has volunteered to report to the FTC in six months
on the issue of unsolicited commercial E-mail. She indicated that the FTC will also study
consumer online privacy issues and report to Congress in June 1998, and it will also continue to
monitor children's online privacy.
She distributed a news article from the New York Times titled, "Limited Access to
Medical Records Is Urged."
She also distributed a handout titled, "UELP - Utah Electronic Law Project."
Ms. Downing said she has researched the European and Canadian standards of privacy.
She also said Europe and Canada have elected not to transfer personal data to third countries
unless those countries ensure adequate levels of protection.
Mr. Hood requested individual privacy ownership be defined. He said a citizen should be able to control the use of individual information that is unique to him.
Ms. Longsworth suggested it might be helpful to have staff extract information from
GRAMA identifying general principles of private information for all records, not only public
records of entities.
Ms. Downing discussed H.B. 263 "Evidence - Access to Patient Records." She said
Rep. Curtis, sponsor of the bill in the '97 General Session, volunteered to provide information to
the Commission pertaining to the legislation.
Mr. Capps suggested that the Commission consider studying the issue of unsolicited
E-mail.
Paul Toscano, Attorney, Woodbury & K, said he is searching for ways to handle
bankruptcy filings with the Federal Bankruptcy Court by filing pleadings through electronic
transmissions. He said technology is sometimes premature, and it is important to allow
technicians to solve some technical problems instead of legislators. He recommended legislation
that would regulate against known harm, and also legislation to benefit the state rather than
trying to identify the individuals' needs.
MOTION: Mr. Capps moved that staff draft legislation
to outlaw unsolicited E-mail, similar to that of other states. The motion failed on a voice vote.
MOTION: Mr. Capps moved that staff draft legislation to identify the privacy of E-mail. After discussion, Mr. Capps withdrew his motion but asked that the privacy of E-mail be
on a future agenda. Sen. Howell suggested a written resolution rather than a bill.
Mr. Harmsen requested the issue of "opt in, opt out," relating to privacy, be addressed at
the next meeting.
5. 1998-99 (FY99) Information Technology (IT) Budget Format Discussion: What Is The Best Format For Understanding IT Budgets? _ Richard North, Executive Director, Information Technology Commission, addressed the Commission on this issue.
Senator Steele said there was concern about the amount of information technology money
being spent.
Mr. Gordon Peterson recommended inviting Doug Richardson, Director of Purchasing, to
come before the Commission
to offer suggestions for using buying power more effectively.
Chair Chard identified some purchasing study issues as processes, procedures, and
outcomes. Mr. Genereaux requested the year 2000 problem be addressed also. Mr. Ames
suggested a strategic plan be studied and implemented.
Sen. Howell said he is considering proposing a bill pertaining to electronic voting and
asked for Commission review.
MOTION: Sen. Howell moved to have staff draft a letter to Governor Leavitt in regards to the CIO position asking that the Governor bring any changes needed to the statute in bill form
to the Commission in its November meeting. The motion passed unanimously with Rep.
Stephens, Judge Jackson, Mr. Harmsen, and Mr. Jerry Peterson absent for the vote.
6. Committee Business - Membership Update _ Richard North advised the Commission that 14 nominations for the vacancy on the Commission
have been submitted.
MOTION: Peter Genereaux moved to adjourn the meeting at 4:08 p.m. The motion passed unanimously with Rep. Stephens, Mr. Harmsen, Judge Jackson, Mr. Miller, and Mr. J.
Peterson absent for the vote.
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