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OFFICIAL REPORT

OF THE

PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES

OF THE

CONVENTION

ASSEMBLED AT SALT LAKE CITY ON THE FOURTH DAY OF MARCH, 1895, TO ADOPT A

CONSTITUTION

FOR THE

STATE OF UTAH.

OFFICERS OF THE CONVENTION.

PRESIDENT:
JOHN HENRY SMITH, Salt Lake City.
SECRETARIES:
PARLEY P. CHRISTENSEN, Grantsville, Tooele County. C. S. RAPP, Assistant, Ogden, Weber County.
ENROLLING AND ENGROSSING CLERK:
JOSEPH A. SMITH, Providence, Cache County.
SERGEANT-AT-ARMS:
R. CLAWSON, Ephraim, Sanpete County.
MESSENGER:
THOMAS S. WATSON, Heber, Wasatch County.
WATCHMAN:
BRUCE JOHNSON, Salt Lake City.
JANITOR:
J. N. SCOTT, Salt Lake City.
PAGES:
JOHN H. THORN, Salt Lake City. L. C. CAMP, Salt Lake City.
COMMITTEE CLERKS:
MISS B. T. MACMASTERS, Salt Lake City. MISS HENRIETTA CLARK, Salt Lake City.
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OFFICIAL REPORT
OF THE
PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES
OF THE
CONVENTION.

FIRST DAY.

MONDAY, 12 m., March 4, 1895.

AN ACT to enable the People of Utah to form a Constitution and State Government, and to be admitted into the Union on an equal footing with the original States.

That the inhabitants of all that part of the area of the United States now constituting the Territory of Utah, as at present described, may become the State of Utah, as hereinafter provided.

SEC. 2. That all male citizens over the age of twenty-one years, who have resided in said Territory for one year next prior to such election, are hereby authorized to vote for and choose delegates to form a Convention in said Territory. Such delegates shall possess the qualifications of such electors; and the aforesaid Convention shall consist of one hundred and seven delegates, apportioned among the several counties within the limits of the proposed State as follows: Beaver County, two delegates; Box Elder County, four delegates; Cache County, eight delegates; Davis County, three delegates; Emery County, three delegates; Garfield County, one delegate; Grand County, one delegate; Iron County, one delegate; Juab County, three delegates; Kane County, one delegate; Millard County, two delegates; Morgan County, one delegate; Piute County, one delegate; Rich County, one delegate; Salt Lake County, twenty-nine delegates thus apportioned, to-wit: Salt Lake City, First Precinct, four delegates; Second Precinct, six delegates; Third Precinct, five delegates; Fourth Precinct, three delegates; Fifth Precinct, three delegates; all other precincts in said county, outside of Salt Lake City, eight delegates; San Juan County, one delegate; San Pete County, seven delegates; Sevier County, three delegates; Summit {4 - ENABLING ACT} County, four delegates; Tooele County, two delegates; Uintah County, one delegate; Utah County, twelve delegates; Wasatch County, two delegates; Washington County, two delegates; Wayne County, one delegate, and Weber County, eleven delegates; and the Governor of said Territory shall, on the first day of August, eighteen hundred and ninety-four, issue a proclamation ordering an election of the delegates aforesaid in said Territory, to be held on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November following. The board of commissioners known as the Utah Commission is hereby authorized and required to cause a new and complete registration of voters of said Territory to be made under the provisions of the laws of the United States and said Territory, except that the oath required for registration under said laws shall be so modified as to test the qualifications of the electors as prescribed in this act; such new registration to be made as nearly conformable with the provisions of such laws as may be; and such election for delegates shall be conducted, the returns made, the result ascertained, and the certificate of persons elected to such Convention issued in the same manner as is prescribed by the laws of said Territory regulating elections therein of members of the Legislature. Persons possessing the qualifications entitling them to vote for delegates under this act shall be entitled to vote on the ratification or rejection of the Constitution, under such rules or regulations as said Convention may prescribe, not in conflict with this act.

First. That perfect toleration of religious sentiment shall be secured, and that no inhabitant of said State shall ever be molested in person or property on account of his or her mode of religious worship: Provided, That polygamous or plural marriages are forever prohibited.

Second. That the people inhabiting said proposed State do agree and declare that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within the boundaries thereof; and to all lands lying within said limits owned or held by any Indian or Indian tribes; and that until the title thereto shall have been extinguished by the United States, the same shall be and remain subject to the disposition of the United States, and said Indian lands shall remain under the absolute jurisdiction and control of the Congress of the United States; that the lands belonging to citizens of the United States residing without the said State shall never be taxed at a higher rate than the lands belonging to residents thereof; that no taxes shall be imposed by the State on lands or property therein belonging to or which may hereafter be purchased by the United States or reserved for its use; but nothing herein, or in the ordinance herein provided for, shall preclude the said State from taxing, as other lands are taxed, any lands owned or held by any Indian who has severed his tribal relations and has obtained {5} from the United States or from any person a title thereto by patent or other grant, save and except such lands as have been or may be granted to any Indian or Indians under any act of Congress containing a provision exempting the lands thus granted from taxation; but said ordinance shall provide that all such lands shall be exempt from taxation by said State so long and to such extent as such act of Congress may prescribe.

Third. That the debts and liabilities of said Territory, under authority of the Legislative Assembly thereof, shall be assumed and paid by said State.

Fourth. That provision shall be made for the establishment and maintenance of a system of public schools, which shall be open to all the children of said State and free from sectarian control.

SEC. 4. That in case a Constitution and State government shall be formed in compliance with the provisions of this act, the Convention forming the same shall provide by ordinance for submitting said Constitution to the people of said State for its ratification or rejection, at an election to be held on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, eighteen hundred and ninety-five, at which election the qualified voters of said proposed State shall vote directly for or against the proposed Constitution, and for or against any provisions separately submitted.

The return of said election shall be made to the said Utah Commission, who shall cause the same to be canvassed, and if a majority of the votes cast on that question shall be for the Constitution, shall certify the result to the President of the United States, together with a statement of the votes cast thereon, and upon separate articles or propositions, and a copy of said Constitution, articles, propositions and ordinances. And if the Constitution and government of said proposed State are republican in form, and if all the provisions of this act have been complied with in the formation thereof, it shall be the duty of the President of the United States to issue his proclamation announcing the result of said election, and thereupon the proposed State of Utah shall be deemed admitted by Congress into the Union, under and by virtue of this act, on an equal footing with the original States, from and after the date of said proclamation.

SEC. 5. That until the next general census, or until otherwise provided by law, said State shall be entitled to one Representative in the House of Representatives of the United States, which Representative in the Fifty-fourth Congress, together with the Governor and other officers provided for in said Constitution, may be elected on the same day of the election for the adoption of the Constitution; and until said State officers are elected and qualified under the provisions of the Constitution, and the State is admitted into the Union, the Territorial officers shall continue to discharge the duties of the respective offices in said Territory.

SEC. 6. That upon the admission of said State into the Union, sections numbered two, sixteen, thirty-two and thirty-six in every township of said proposed State, and where such sections or any parts thereof have been sold or otherwise disposed of by or under the authority of any act of Congress; or other lands equivalent thereto, in legal subdivisions of not less than one quarter section, and as contiguous as may be to the section in lieu of which the same is taken, are hereby granted to said State for the support of common schools, such indemnity lands to be selected within said State in such manner as the Legislature may provide, with the approval of the secretary of the interior; Provided, That the second, sixteenth, thirty-second and thirty-sixth sections embraced in permanent reservations for national purposes shall not, at any time, be subject {6} to the grants nor to the indemnity provisions of this act, nor shall any lands embraced in Indian, military, or other reservations of any character be subject to the grants or to the indemnity provisions of this act until the reservation shall have been extinguished and such lands be restored to and become a part of the public domain.

SEC. 7. That upon the admission of said State into the Union, in accordance with the provisions of this act, one hundred sections of the unappropriated lands within said State, to be selected and located in legal subdivisions, as provided in section six of this act, shall be, and are hereby, granted to said State for the purpose of erecting public buildings, at the capital of said State, when permanently located, for legislative, executive, and judicial purposes.

SEC. 8. That lands to the extent of two townships in quantity, authorized by the third section of the act of February twenty-one, eighteen hundred and fifty-five, to be reserved for the establishment of the University of Utah, are hereby granted to the State of Utah for university purposes, to be held and used in accordance with the provisions of this section; and any portions of said lands that may not have been selected by said Territory may be selected by said State. That in addition to the above, one hundred and ten thousand acres of land, to be selected and

located as provided in the foregoing section of this act, and including all saline lands in said State, are hereby granted to said State, for the use of said university, and two hundred thousand acres for the use of an agricultural college therein. That the proceeds of the sale of said lands, or any portion thereof, shall constitute permanent funds, to be safely invested and held by said State; and the income thereof to be used exclusively for the purposes of such university and agricultural college respectively.

SEC. 9. That five per centum of the proceeds of the sales of public lands lying within said State, which shall be sold by the United States subsequent to the admission of said State into the Union, after deducting all the expenses incident to the same, shall be paid to the said State, to be used as a permanent fund, the interest of which only shall be expended for the support of the common schools within said State.

SEC. 10. That the proceeds of lands herein granted for educational purposes, except as hereinafter otherwise provided, shall constitute a permanent school fund, the interest of which only shall be expended for the support of said schools, and such land shall not be subject to preemption, homestead entry, or any other entry under the land laws of the United States, whether surveyed or un-surveyed, but shall be surveyed for school purposes only.

SEC. 11. The schools, colleges, and university provided for in this act, shall forever remain under the exclusive control of said State, and no part of the proceeds arising from the sale or disposal of any lands herein granted for educational purposes, or of the income thereof, shall be used for the support of any sectarian or denominational school, college, or university.

SEC. 12. That in lieu of the grant of land for the purposes of internal improvement made to new states by the eighth section of the act of September fourth, eighteen hundred and forty-one, which section is hereby repealed as to said State, and in lieu of any claim or demand by the State of Utah under the act of September twenty-eighth, eighteen hundred and fifty, and section twenty- four hundred and seventy-nine of the Revised Statutes, making a grant of swamp and overflowed lands to certain states, which grant, it is hereby declared, is not extended to said State of Utah, the following grants of land are hereby made to said State, for the purposes indicated, namely:

For the establishment of permanent water reservoirs for irrigating purposes, {7} five hundred thousand acres; for the establishment and maintenance of an insane asylum, one hundred thousand acres; for the establishment and maintenance of a school of mines in connection with the university, one hundred thousand acres; for the establishment and maintenance of a deaf and dumb asylum, one hundred thousand acres; for the establishment and maintenance of a reform school, one hundred thousand acres; for establishment and maintenance of State normal schools, one hundred thousand acres; for the establishment and maintenance of an institution for the blind, one hundred thousand acres; for a miners' hospital for disabled miners, fifty thousand acres. The United States penitentiary near Salt Lake City and all lands and appurtenances connected therewith and set apart and reserved therefor are hereby granted to the State of Utah.

The said State of Utah shall not be entitled to any further or other grants of land for any purpose than as expressly provided in this act; and the lands granted by this section shall be held,

appropriated, and disposed of exclusively for the purposes herein mentioned, in such manner as the Legislature of the State may provide.

SEC. 13. That all land granted in quantity or as indemnity by this act shall be selected under the direction of the Secretary of the Interior, from the unappropriated public lands of the United States within the limits of said State of Utah.

SEC. 14. That the State of Utah shall constitute one judicial district, which shall be called the district of Utah, and the circuit and district courts thereof shall be held at the capital of this State for the time being. The judge of said district shall receive a yearly salary of five thousand dollars, payable monthly, and shall reside in his district. There shall be appointed clerks of said courts, who shall keep their offices at the capital of said State. There shall be appointed for said district one district judge, one United States attorney, and one United States marshal. The regular terms of said courts shall be held at the place aforesaid on the first Monday in April and the first Monday in November of each year. For judicial purposes, the district of Utah shall be attached to the eighth judicial circuit, and only one grand jury and one petit jury shall be summoned in both of said courts.

SEC. 15. That the circuit and district courts for the district of Utah and the judges thereof, respectively, shall possess the same powers and jurisdiction and perform the same duties possessed and required to be performed by the other circuit and district courts and judges of the United States, and shall be governed by the same laws and regulations.

SEC. 16. That the marshal, district attorney and clerks of the circuit and district courts of the said district of Utah, and all other officers and other persons performing duty in the administration of justice therein, shall severally possess the powers and perform the duties lawfully possessed and required to be performed by similar officers in other districts of the United States, and shall, for the services they may perform, receive the same fees and compensation allowed by law to other similar officers and persons performing similar duties.

SEC. 17. That the Convention herein provided for shall have the power to provide, by ordinance, for the transfer of actions, cases, proceedings, and matters pending in the supreme or district courts of the Territory of Utah at the time of the admission of the said State into the Union, to such courts as shall be established under the Constitution to be thus formed, or to the circuit or district court of the United States for the district of Utah; and no indictment, action, or proceeding shall abate by reason of any change in the courts, but shall be proceeded with in the State or United States courts according to the laws thereof, respectively. That all {8 - ORGANIZATION} cases of appeal or writ of error heretofore prosecuted and now pending in the Supreme Court of the United States upon any record from the supreme court of said Territory, or that may hereafter lawfully be prosecuted upon any record from said court, may be heard and determined by said Supreme Court of the United States; and the mandate of execution or of further proceedings shall be directed by the Supreme Court of the United States to the circuit or district court hereby established within the said State from or to the supreme court of such State, as the nature of the case may require. And the circuit, district, and state courts herein named shall, respectively, be the successors of the supreme court of the Territory as to all such

cases arising within the limits embraced within the jurisdiction of such courts, respectively, with full power to proceed with the same, and award mesne or final process therein; and that from all judgments and decrees of the supreme court of the Territory, mentioned in this act, in any case arising within the limits of the proposed State prior to admission, the parties to such judgment shall have the same right to prosecute appeals and writs of error to the Supreme Court of the United States as they shall have had by the law prior to the admission of said State into the Union.

SEC. 18. That the sum of thirty thousand dollars, or so much thereof as may be necessary, is hereby appropriated out of any money in the treasury not otherwise appropriated to said Territory for defraying the expenses of said Convention and for the payment of the members thereof, under the same rules and regulations and at the same rates as are now provided by law for the payment of the Territorial Legislature.

SEC. 19. That the Constitutional Convention may, by ordinance, provide for the election of officers for a full State government, including members of the Legislature and Representative in the Fifty-fourth Congress, at the time for the election for the ratification or rejection of the Constitution; but the said State government shall remain in abeyance until the State shall be admitted into the Union as proposed by this act. In case the Constitution of said State shall be ratified by the people, but not otherwise, the Legislature thereof may assemble, organize and elect two Senators of the United States in the manner now prescribed by the laws of the United States; and the Governor and Secretary of State of the proposed State shall certify the election of the Senators and Representative in the manner required by law, and when such State is admitted into the Union, as provided in this act, the Senators and Representative shall be entitled to be admitted to seats in Congress, and to all rights and privileges of Senators and Representatives of other states in the Congress of the United States; and the State government formed in pursuance of said Constitution, as provided by the Constitutional Convention, shall proceed to exercise all the functions of State officers; and all laws in force made by said Territory at the time of its admission into the Union shall be in force in said State, except as modified or changed by this act or by the Constitution of the State; and the laws of the United States shall have the same force and effect within the said State as elsewhere within the United States.

SEC. 20. That all acts or parts of acts in conflict with the provisions of this act, whether passed by the Legislature of said Territory or by Congress, are hereby repealed.
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Mr. CRANE. At the request of a large number of the delegates_

Mr. EVANS (Weber). I desire to introduce a resolution:

“Whereas, the Enabling Act makes no provision as to who shall call the Convention to order, therefore be it resolved, that the oldest delegate holding {9} a certificate of election be accorded the courtesy of calling the Convention to order.”

Do I hear a second to this resolution?

Mr. EVANS (Weber). I want to say, gentlemen, in support of this resolution_just a moment_that the Enabling Act, as you all know, makes no provision at all as to the person who shall call the Convention to order. I have noticed in some of the proceedings in other States, of conventions similar to this, that where that is the case, or where the law does not provide as to the person who shall call the Convention to order, the delegates extend, as a matter of courtesy, that honor to the oldest delegate in the convention; and, gentlemen, it seems to me that that in this case, to allay any kind of feeling which might arise by reason of any action of anybody, it would be a generous thing for us to do to venerate old age and give this honor to the oldest delegate. whoever lie may be. As many as favor the resolution will say aye_

Mr. EICHNOR. Mr. Chairman_

Mr. EVANS (Weber). Contrary, no.

Mr. EICHNOR. Is any person allowed to speak on this question?

Mr. EVANS (Weber). I am not presiding here.

Mr. EICHNOR. Does the gentleman from Weber County assume that he has the right to speak, and no one else?

Mr. EVANS (Weber). No, sir; I do not, but this certainly seems to me to be a question we ought to pass upon without any feeling.

Mr. CRANE. At the request of a large number of the delegates who are here present, I have been requested to call this Convention to order. I will call upon President George Q. Cannon to ask the Divine blessing. The honor was accorded President Woodruff, to ask the Divine blessing on this assemblage here today, but unfortunately President Woodruff is indisposed. The committee therefore considered it but right that President Cannon should ask the Divine blessing.

Mr. EVANS (Weber). Gentlemen of the Convention, are we to pass upon this question? Of course we are not a Convention yet. This is simply a matter of courtesy, and I ask the privilege of being recognized for the purpose of having it passed upon, at least.

Mr. SQUIRES. Mr. Chairman, I move as an amendment to that resolution, that the Hon. Charles Crane be selected to call this Convention to order.

Motion seconded by a number of delegates.

Mr. CRANE. Gentlemen, you have heard the motion. Are you ready for the question? [Calls for the question.] All those in favor of the motion_

Mr. CRANE. _will please say aye; contrary, no. The ayes seem to have it. The ayes have it.

Mr. EVANS (Weber). Division.

Mr. JAMES. Oh, no.

Mr. CRANE. If the Convention will please come to order, President Cannon of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will ask the Divine blessing.

Mr. GEORGE Q. CANNON. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the Convention, it is but just to say that it is very unexpected to me to be called upon, but President Woodruff sent word to me a few minutes ago that he was unable to appear here to officiate in this capacity, and requested that I would appear and act for him. Will the assemblage please rise?

The delegates having risen, Mr. Cannon invoked the blessing as follows:

Our Eternal Father, we approach Thee in the name of Thy Son, Jesus Christ, upon this occasion, and we desire to do so in a manner that shall be acceptable in Thy sight. We feel, our Father, that this assemblage needs Thy {10} Holy Spirit to be with them, they need Thy help, so that in the consideration of the great and important questions that shall enter into their discussions, they may be filled with that feeling that cometh from Thee, with love for each other and for humanity, and be inspired by the highest and most patriotic motives that can fill the human breast; that in the framing of this important Constitution for this great country, they may, our Father, look constantly to Thee for that aid and help which Thou alone can give, and that even though they may not believe in Thee (there may be some, our Father, who do not have faith in God )_yet that in their hearts there may be a desire to do that which is right for their fellowmen [*note*], and to look forward to the best interests of this country, and to do everything that is possible to make this a great and a grand country, under a Constitution that shall be liberal in the largest acceptation of that term. Our Heavenly Father, the hearts of the people of this Territory are centered in their desire that this Convention may be one that shall do honor to the great questions that shall be brought before it. We therefore invoke Thy divine blessing upon all connected therewith. We ask Thee to manifest Thy power, for we do feel deeply interested in the results of the debates that shall take place here; and wilt Thou remove, Father, from the breasts of these men every feeling of improper partisanship, that they may not contend for party advantage, nor to succeed in any direction that is not in the interests of the entire people. Help them, our Heavenly Father, we beseech Thee, and let Thy blessings rest down upon every one of them, and upon him who shall be called upon to preside, whoever he may be, that he may preside with dignity and with fairness, in the midst of this Convention; and upon the committees that shall be appointed, that they may be filled with the same spirit and feeling and disposition, and that the whole people may rejoice exceedingly before Thee, the Lord our God, at the results of this Convention, and the spirit that shall be manifested by those who take part in its proceedings. All of which we humbly ask in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord, amen.

The list was then read by Secretary Richards.

Mr. CRANE. I will now call upon the Chief Justice of the Territory to swear the members in.

The oath was then administered by Chief Justice Merritt.

Governor West then addressed the Convention as follows:

Mr. Chairman and Gentlemen of the Convention: This is a red-letter day for Utah; this is the most glorious day of her history. The people who came here forty-seven years ago and made a settlement, acting with the avowed purpose, with the hope, with the desire, to grow in numbers, and by their energy and industry develop a people and a country worthy to take a place among the states of this great Republic, through all the years until now have worked and labored, endured hardships and privations, and we stand to-day with all the benefits of their toil, their energy, and their labor, as the great treasure we propose to unite to this Union of states.

Now, gentlemen, you have assembled for the purpose of making a Constitution for this new commonwealth. No greater trust, no greater responsibility, could be given you than the one entrusted to you by the confiding people of Utah. Your work, if well and wisely done, as I do not doubt but it will be, is not for to-day, it is not for to-morrow, but it is for years to come. It is not the laws that you make that can be changed with every recurring session of the
Legislature, or with every passing breath {11} of public opinion, but you are to make the Organic Law, you are to lay down the fundamental principles that must guide and control the destinies of this new commonwealth for many years. Therefore, your deliberations should be, as I doubt not they will be, characterized by calm consideration, due deliberation, and an entire absence of passion or of feeling, having but one star as your guide, the good, the help, the prosperity, and the safety of the whole people of this great commonwealth. [Applause.]

Now, while the work that you are to do here to-day will be for the new State of Utah, as constitution makers, you do not plunge into an unexplored field or traverse a vast and barren and uninhabited wilderness. On the contrary, you come of a race of state creators and of constitution makers; you have as your pattern the noblest instrument that probably ever enlightened the world, the great Constitution of our fathers, the Constitution of the United States. [Applause.] You have complied with the law which requires that before you begin your deliberations, a solemn oath be administered to you by the Chief Justice of this Territory, to observe and support that Constitution; and the nearer you keep, in my judgment, to that instrument, and follow its enunciations of fundamental principles, the nearer you will come to the hearts of the people, and commend the new State of Utah to her associates. So you have that instrument; and not only that, but you have the experience and the work of constitution makers of all the other states that have gone before you, and with these lights it would seem that it would be impossible for you to make a Constitution other than a most excellent and admirable one. [Applause.]

Mr. CRANE. What is the further pleasure of the Convention?

Mr. CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I take pleasure in nominating as temporary president of this Convention, the Honorable James N. Kimball, of Weber County.

Mr. Kimball was then unanimously elected as temporary president, and was greeted with applause as he ascended the platform.

Mr. CRANE. Gentlemen of the Convention, I take pleasure in introducing to you Honorable James N. Kimball, of Weber County, the temporary president.

President pro tem. Kimball then addressed the Convention as follows:

Gentlemen of the Convention, I thank you for the honor thus conferred upon me. I did not come here prepared to make a speech in assuming the chair this morning; but I have this to say, that this day is one that has been long looked forward to by the people of this Territory, and that while we are assembled here to-day inaugurating this Convention, we are entering upon the performance of one of the most important duties that the people could select us to perform, and while we were elected to the position we occupy in this Convention upon partisan tickets, I feel that we all come here to-day with the idea that we are here now to work for the whole people of the Territory [applause]; and that we will each endeavor to so perform our duty that when this {12} Convention shall have adjourned, its work will meet with the commendation of all the people of the Territory. Again, gentlemen, I thank you for the honor you have conferred upon me. [Applause.]

Mr. EICHNOR. Mr. President, for temporary secretary, I nominate Mr. Heber M. Wells, of Salt Lake.

Mr. Wells was unanimously elected to the position.

Mr. SYMONS. Mr. President, I nominate J. F. Chidester, of Garfield County, for temporary sergeant-at-arms.

Mr. Chidester was unanimously elected.

Mr. IVINS. Mr. President, does the gentlemen mean that this committee of five have control of all these different matters, or that a committee of five in each of these different departments be appointed?

Mr. VAN HORNE. One committee, is the motion, Mr. President.

Mr. VARIAN. Mr. President, it seems to me that the usual and precedented order of business at this stage of the temporary organization would be the appointment of a committee on credentials. The committee spoken of is a committee belonging to a permanent organization.

The PRESIDENT pro tem. I heard no second to Mr. Van Horne's motion.

Mr. VARIAN. I move that a committee of seven be appointed as a committee on credentials.

The motion was agreed to.

Mr. JAMES. Mr. President, I move you that we take a recess until 4 o'clock.

Mr. CANNON. Mr. President, there being no second to that motion, I move you that a committee of five be appointed by the chair, on rules of order.

Mr. RICHARDS. Mr. President, I move you that the Convention do now adjourn until to-morrow at 2 o'clock.

The motion of Mr. Richards was rejected,

Mr. VARIAN. Mr. President, I am informed by the chair that he desires half an hour or such a matter to make up that committee. As a matter of courtesy to the chair, I now move that we take a recess of an hour in order that the committee on credentials can be formed. It ought to be formed at once, or as soon as may be, in order that this matter may be taken up.

Mr. JAMES. I move as an amendment, that we take a recess of two hours.

Mr. KEARNS. Mr. President, I move as a substitute for that, that we adjourn until to-morrow morning.

Mr. EVANS (Weber). I was going to suggest to the gentleman from Salt Lake, that if we are going to have an adjournment, it ought to be long enough so that some of us can go out and get something to eat.

Mr. VARIAN. Perhaps I can make a suggestion that will obviate the difficulty. This is only for the purpose of enabling the chair to make its appointments; then the probabilities are that the

Convention will have to adjourn until to-morrow, because the committee on credentials will have to have time to investigate and perform their duty. It is only for the purpose of enabling the chair to appoint that committee.

Mr. RICHARDS. Why not take an informal recess until the chair has an opportunity to select the committee?

Mr. VARIAN. I will so treat the motion, yes.
The motion was agreed to, and the Convention took an informal recess of one hour, after which it was called to order by the president pro tem.

The PRESIDENT pro tem. Gentlemen of the Convention, I will announce as the committee on credentials which I have selected:
C. N. Strevell, Mons Peterson, D. B. {13} Stover, David Evans, A. W. Ivins, B. H. Roberts, G. B. Squires.

Mr. EVANS (Weber). Mr. President, as a member of that committee, I would like to know the sense of the house as to what are the duties, and what is expected of them. I do not know whether I understand the extent of the power that is intended to be given to that committee.

The PRESIDENT pro tem. I assume that it is to pass upon credentials.

Mr. EVANS (Weber). I want to know whether it is expected that that committee will pass upon the contests or not?

The PRESIDENT pro tem. I did not so understand it when the motion was made.

Mr. VARIAN. Mr. President, it is a matter of parliamentary law, the committee on credentials report who are entitled to seats in this body.

The PRESIDENT pro tem. That is as I understand it, Mr. Varian.

Mr. EVANS (Weber). According to the certificates they hold?

Mr. VARIAN. Yes, sir.

Mr. EVANS (Weber). I did not want any conflict in the committee, and that is why I asked the question.

On motion the Convention then adjourned until to-morrow at 10:30 o'clock a. m.